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Former churches converted to condos as Toronto congregations shrink

Torstar News Service

From her usual spot on the last pew beside the cen­tre aisle, 88-year-old Lily Anthony watched as Rev. Bill Elliott stood below the pul­pit and declared the decon­se­cra­tion of their century-old congregation.

Today as we leave this house of wor­ship, accept­ing that it will be removed and replaced, may we feel a sense of ful­fill­ment and com­ple­tion… and be able to depart in peace,” said Elliott, look­ing intently at some of the tear-stained faces of his congregation’s 60 members.

The day was Dec. 31, 2012, the last time mem­bers of Glebe Pres­by­ter­ian Church gath­ered in the mid­town church where Anthony had been bap­tized, mar­ried and laid her hus­band to rest.

Every­one was ask­ing me if I was sad about the move but I told them I wasn’t,” Anthony said. “It was time to look onto the future.”

St. Clements Lofts - 173 Jones Avenue

St. Clements Lofts – 173 Jones Avenue

Built in 1914, the church joins a hand­ful of places of wor­ship in Toronto being con­verted into lofts. This year alone, at least five are being trans­formed into lofts and town­houses. Just recently, St. Clement’s Angli­can Church in Leslieville was approved to be turned into 18 two-storey loft units with an exten­sion of 20 loft-style units to be built in a nearby vacant land.

Com­ment: Not sure about five con­ver­sion projects… I can add the Sanc­tu­ary Lofts at 1183 Duf­ferin Street to the 3 in this arti­cle. Unless it is a new one involv­ing this Glebe Pres­by­ter­ian Church, which is for sale, but not slated for any­thing quite yet.

This is by no means a new phe­nom­e­non,” said Uni­ver­sity of Toronto pro­fes­sor Brian Clarke, who spe­cial­izes in Canada’s church his­tory. “But the rea­son why there seems to be an increase in churches being turned into things like lofts is that mem­ber­ships in con­gre­ga­tions are shrink­ing and aging.”

Clarke said that “main­line churches,” which are mostly affil­i­ated with Chris­tian­ity, make up about 57% of Toronto’s reli­gious pop­u­la­tion, accord­ing to the vol­un­tary 2011 National House­hold Sur­vey (NHS). They haven’t been grow­ing since the 1970s.

Accord­ing to fig­ures pro­vided by the churches, mem­ber­ship in the United Church declined by almost 10% from 24,210 in 2008 to 21,573 in 2011, while Pres­by­ter­ian atten­dance decreased by 24% from 7,500 in 2001 to 5,700 in 2011. The Angli­can Church has expe­ri­enced a steep 29% decline from 321,580 in the 2001 cen­sus to 227,925 in the 2011 NHS.

Only the Roman Catholic Church reported growth from 1.6 mil­lion in 2001 to 1.8 mil­lion in 2011, mostly due to immi­gra­tion, said spokesper­son Bill Stein­burg. The church has built four new parishes in the out­skirts of the GTA over the last four years.

Unable to shoul­der the finan­cial strain of main­tain­ing decades-old build­ings, how­ever, oth­ers haven’t been as lucky.

The United Church has closed six churches in the last three years while the Pres­by­ter­ian Church has closed eight, three of which were turned into lofts.

Union Lofts - 234 Perth Avenue

Union Lofts – 234 Perth Avenue

If you look around, a lot of the older churches are built near each other in the gen­eral down­town area so peo­ple could walk there on Sun­days,” Clarke said. “But immi­grants tend to set­tle in the sub­urbs where there’s more afford­able hous­ing so there are no peo­ple to off­set the amount of peo­ple unable to go to church because of age.”

The west end in par­tic­u­lar has seen a surge in devel­op­ment in recent years, said senior city plan­ner Sarah Phipps, who over­sees Ward 18, which stretches from Park­dale, the Junc­tion to a part of Roncesvalles.

Ward 18 is feel­ing the pres­sure right now as the city con­tin­ues to grow and every­thing towards the east has been devel­oped,” Phipps said.

Churches are espe­cially highly sought after by devel­op­ers, as they are mostly located in large, prime city lands, Phipps added.

Ward 18 is cur­rently home to two church loft con­ver­sions. Perth Avenue Methodist Church at 243 Perth Ave is being turned into Union Lofts, a 22-unit four-storey loft, while The Angli­can Church of St. Mary the Vir­gin and St. Cyprian is being con­verted into a 17-unit loft called West40.

West40 Lofts - 40 Westmoreland Avenue

West40 Lofts – 40 West­more­land Avenue

On its last stages of con­struc­tion, West40, a city-designated her­itage site built in 1912, is close to being sold out, said archi­tect Asen Vitko.

There’s a demand for own­ing a piece of gen­uine real McCoy his­tory rather than recre­at­ing a struc­ture so it looks like some­thing from pre­vi­ous eras,” Vitko said.

Her­itage build­ings in Toronto are par­tic­u­larly pop­u­lar since the city “doesn’t have much his­tory left” after sev­eral his­tor­i­cal build­ings got demol­ished between the ’50s to ’70s’, he added.

Com­ment: Do not get me started on the archi­tec­tural and his­tor­i­cal holo­caust com­mit­ted in the 1950s through the 1970s.

But own­ing a sliver of his­tory doesn’t come cheap.

Con­ver­sions are usu­ally priced higher than new con­struc­tions due to repairs that require recre­at­ing old water and century-old con­struc­tion tech­niques orig­i­nally used when the build­ing was first constructed.

A two-bedroom unit at West40 costs around $750,000 while a new condo unit of the same size at Ron­ces­valles is priced at around $575,000.

Since most churches in Toronto are her­itage build­ings, the process of con­ver­sion is much more tedious, Phipps said.

Instead of only con­sult­ing city plan­ners, devel­op­ers also have to work with her­itage archi­tects to ensure that addi­tions still pre­serve the building’s history.

The com­plex­ity of church to loft con­ver­sions, how­ever, does not deter Vitko, who calls the “mar­ry­ing of new con­struc­tion to orig­i­nal con­struc­tion” a labour of love.”

Phipps agreed, say­ing the loft con­ver­sions are a good use of the old churches and the space they have.

These loft con­ver­sions keep Toronto’s his­tory intact and pro­vide unique solu­tions to extend the life of these buildings.”

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Lau­rin & Natalie Jef­frey are Toronto Real­tors with Cen­tury 21 Regal Realty.
They did not write these arti­cles, they just repro­duce them here for peo­ple
who are inter­ested in Toronto real estate. They do not work for any builders.

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In Toronto, “Low Rise” Vs. “High Rise” Living? About $194,000

David George-Cosh – Wall Street Journal

The dream of owning a new home with a yard and white picket fence is fading for many in Toronto, thanks to a widening price gap between houses and condos.

The price gap between buying a new “low-rise” home versus a new “high-rise” home has widened to about $194,000, from about $75,000 back in 2011, according to George Carras, president of Realnet Canada Inc., a Canadian real estate research firm.

Comment: And people wonder why condos are so popular… not always because people prefer them, but they are the only home they can afford.

A low-rise home is defined by Realnet as a newly built detached, semi-detached home or town house. A high-rise home is an apartment condominium, loft or stacked townhouse.

In April, the cost to buy a new low-rise home in Canada’s biggest city was $627,933, up 6% from the same month last year, while the price of a new high-rise home was relatively unchanged at $433,132, according to a report by Realnet.

There are also less low-rise homes being built, as Toronto policymakers have decided that the best way to handle an expanding population in North America’s fourth-largest city is from the condo market rather than new houses, Mr. Carras said.

“Toronto’s housing market is getting taller, smaller and more expensive,” he says.

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Contact the Jeffrey Team for more information – 416-388-1960

Laurin & Natalie Jeffrey are Toronto Realtors with Century 21 Regal Realty.
They did not write these articles, they just reproduce them here for people
who are interested in Toronto real estate. They do not work for any builders.

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Second offer takes unique three-storey Toronto factory loft

Sydnia Yu – The Globe and Mail

ADDRESS: 200 Clinton Street, No. 1
ASKING PRICE: $1,495,000
SELLING PRICE: $1,300,000
PREVIOUS SELLING PRICES: $471,000 (1998); $349,000 (1996)
TAXES: $5,776 (2011)
DAYS ON THE MARKET: 125

Button Factory Lofts - 200 Clinton Street

Button Factory Lofts – 200 Clinton Street

THE ACTION: On a residential street between popular restaurants and cafés on Harbord and College streets, this three-storey, ground floor unit at the Button Factory Lofts was slowly cased by about 60 buyers starting in the fall. A lowball offer was turned away, but the seller’s patience paid off with another viable bid by the end of winter.

Comment: Don’t be fooled by the long time on the market, expensive properties like this always take time to sell.

WHAT THEY GOT: In the 1990s, a century-old, uniform factory was redeveloped with 13 raw loft spaces. This one occupying the building’s north, east and south corner was the largest with 2,400 square feet of interior space and 600 square feet outdoors, excluding the private front yard.

The main floor has three entry points, including a door between the carport and the kitchen and dining area and the warehouse’s original front entrance between the garden and fireside living space with 24-foot ceilings, original post and beams, hardwood floors and custom spiral staircase.

A second-floor terrace can be reached from the den and bedroom, while the rooftop deck is at the top of the stairs from a third floor master suite with one of three bathrooms.

Without recreational facilities or concierge on site, monthly fees are just $964.

THE AGENT’S TAKE: “It’s a hidden gem with only 13 units in the complex, so there’s next to no turnover,” agent Christopher Bibby said. “[This unit] is such a unique property, it is the largest in the complex and it has the most exterior space.”

Lofts rarely possess an original front door, skylights, wood-burning fireplace, spiral staircase and outdoor space, much less all those elements combined, he said.

“In a lot of conversions, you’re on a higher floor. Here, the entire unit was at grade, so it really felt more like a freehold property, but it did have lofty characteristics,” Mr. Bibby added.

“It’s not common in a loft to have 2,400-square feet spread over three floors.”

Comment: Amazing, I sold one in this building a few years ago. Even with multiple offers, it only went for a bit over $800k. I cannot believe how much prices have risen here!

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Contact the Jeffrey Team for more information – 416-388-1960

Laurin & Natalie Jeffrey are Toronto Realtors with Century 21 Regal Realty.
They did not write these articles, they just reproduce them here for people
who are interested in Toronto real estate. They do not work for any builders.

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