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Toronto Church Loft Conversions

Buy­ers praise heav­enly loft conversions

By Derek Ray­maker – Globe and Mail

If there is a higher power, would he or she pre­fer hard­wood floors or gran­ite coun­ter­tops? And would he or she want to pay $20,000 for a park­ing space?

In the first half of the 20th cen­tury, the upright cit­i­zens of Toronto the Good dis­tin­guished them­selves as among the most god-fearing in the Great Domin­ion, enthu­si­as­ti­cally jam­ming into pews every Sunday.

If Toron­to­ni­ans observe the same devo­tion to the divine cur­rently, they do so qui­etly and usu­ally in the pri­vacy of their own homes. This has left a lot of clergy and parish elders in a great quandary: Do they con­tinue to preach to thin­ning ranks of wor­ship­pers, or do they merge into a tighter cir­cle and offer up their prime real estate to the dark but nec­es­sary forces of commerce?

The land may be entic­ing, but church struc­tures them­selves are of lim­ited use when it comes to any­thing other than the Lord’s work. But since 1999, when loft con­ver­sions went into full swing around Toronto, some under­used churches have been reborn as loft residences.

These are not slam-dunk loft con­ver­sions when it comes to con­struc­tion or sales. Recon­fig­ur­ing the often angu­lar and rounded shapes of a church to suit the needs of buy­ers requires archi­tec­tural finesse, which does not come cheap, and there are almost always some ugly sur­prises to deal with after con­struc­tion begins. This could be any­thing from ter­mite con­trol to new masonry to being forced to get rid of splen­did stained-glass fea­tures for the greater good of main­tain­ing struc­tural integrity.

All of these alter­ations are expen­sive, and these costs are in turn passed on to the buyer. Unless an addi­tion is included, most church struc­tures can’t really host more than 25 or 30 suites, mean­ing that the costs of an expen­sive restora­tion and con­ver­sion can’t be spread out over a large num­ber of buyers.

On the buyer side, a church con­ver­sion is really a spe­cial­ized niche prod­uct. Many buy­ers may find bunk­ing down in a for­mer House of God to be some­thing of a nov­elty, but in resale terms, these prod­ucts often don’t have cer­tain fea­tures that help sus­tain the unit’s value, such as ter­race space, com­mon ameni­ties and parking.

While these church loft con­ver­sions might have a lot of risks asso­ci­ated with them, they are not with­out their unique fea­tures, not the least of which is that they are often in res­i­den­tial areas known for their peace and quiet. Suites are also often more likely to have two lev­els and unique layouts.

Those who do buy these suites are almost exclu­sively end-user res­i­dents – mean­ing they’re not going to rent out the units to ten­ants. This per­sonal com­mit­ment helps main­tain a seam­less aes­thetic quality.

The most recent of these con­ver­sions to come on the mar­ket was The Church on Dover­court Road between Bloor and Col­lege streets, which now houses 28 lofts in the hand­some neo-Gothic edi­fice of the for­mer Cen­ten­nial Methodist Church.

Two blocks north, Lux Group Inc. is well under way in its con­ver­sion of a more aus­tere 1910 church into a 23-suite loft con­ver­sion project. With the least expen­sive suite priced at $499,000 for 1,057 square feet going up to over $700,000 for 1,900 square feet, you can see why these prod­ucts aren’t in the ball­park for most condo buy­ers. Single-family homes in the sur­round­ing Bloor and Duf­ferin area go for sim­i­lar prices.

A lit­tle fur­ther west, on Sun­ny­side Avenue in High Park, another Gothic revival Methodist church has been trans­formed into The Abbey, which recently com­pleted con­struc­tion. Of the 24 suites in the grey lime­stone project, the most recent sale was well into the $700,000s.

Com­ment: With no fac­to­ries or ware­houses left to con­vert, watch for even more churches to be con­verted. Right now I have my eye on The Vic­to­ria Lofts, near­ing com­ple­tion at Annete and Med­land. Just down the street is the old Czecho­slo­va­kian Bap­tist Church at 600 Annete. Watch for oth­ers on Wal­lace Avenue, Jones north of Queen, Park­dale and elsewhere…

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Lau­rin & Natalie Jef­frey are Toronto Real­tors with Cen­tury 21 Regal Realty.
They did not write these arti­cles, they just repro­duce them here for peo­ple
who are inter­ested in Toronto real estate. They do not work for any builders.

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  • At a former church, this loft is like no other

    Listed for $1.65-million, the light-filled, off­beat Bell Tower has $350,000 worth of upgrades

    Con­nie Adair, National Post

    With a mix of mod­ern and medieval, the Bell Tower suite is a place that piques the inter­est of the vis­i­tor, makes them think — and makes them smile.

    The for­mer Howard Park Methodist Church on Sun­ny­side Avenue, in the Park­side and Bloor neigh­bour­hood, once housed a nurs­ery school, an audi­to­rium, a bas­ket­ball court and pews for more than 1,000 parish­ioners. The mas­sive 1910 stone struc­ture was bought by a devel­oper in the early 2000s and was con­verted into res­i­den­tial lofts. In 2008, the first occu­pants began mov­ing into The Abbey suites, no two of which are alike.

    The Abbey Lofts - 384 Sunnyside Avenue

    The Abbey Lofts — 384 Sun­ny­side Avenue

    The own­ers of the Bell Tower put much thought and cash (about $350,000) into seri­ous and not-so-serious upgrades through­out the 2,700-square-foot inte­rior and 550-sq.-ft. exte­rior spaces (MLS# W1889416).

    From the orig­i­nal 26-foot high cathe­dral ceil­ing in the open-concept liv­ing area to the indus­trial kitchen, exposed lime­stone walls and pipes to mod­ern gran­ites, this suite is “mod­ern meets Gothic romance,” says real estate agent Lynn Trib­bling of Cold­well Banker Ter­re­quity Realty.

    Wide open white spaces are punc­tu­ated with vibrant stained glass that stretches two storeys high and draws the eye upward, the visitor’s gaze stop­ping only to notice a lamb statue, or two, rest­ing atop lime­stone outcroppings.

    Sub­tle art­work in the hall takes the form of “wall spir­its,” Ms. Trib­bling says. “Parts of a nun and a pope peek out from the wall — a nose, half of a pope’s hat, a hand hold­ing a can­dle — with mus­ing rather than scary faces.”

    Gran­ite floors in the liv­ing room have insets of 32×32-inch etched-glass floor art. In the foyer, a Hol­stein “holy cow” statue stands beside mas­sive wood book­shelves rem­i­nis­cent of the stacks at the Uni­ver­sity of Toronto library, she says.

    The space was designed to be not only beau­ti­ful, but func­tional too. The sleek kitchen, “the beat­ing heart of the main floor,” has no upper cab­i­netry for a clean look, she says. “A 20-foot walk-in pantry was added to offer much-needed stor­age and a place to keep a wine collection.”

    A highly pol­ished stain­less steel stair­case offers access to the upper lev­els, where there is a mas­ter bed­room with an ensuite spa bath­room com­plete with shoji screens, a spa tub, heated floors and a door to one of three terraces.

    The third-floor office, where the own­ers, a uni­ver­sity pro­fes­sor and a school prin­ci­pal, write books and pre­pare speak­ing notes, is a min­i­mal­ist space drenched in nat­ural light.

    The out­door tur­ret land­ing has arti­fi­cial grass, Ms. Trib­bling says. “The own­ers were recently shop­ping for an antique lawn mower to put on the arti­fi­cial grass.”

    From the top of the church tower are lake and park views.

    The media room, the only room that isn’t white, has red walls and stained glass win­dows. It’s like being inside a glass paper­weight, Ms. Trib­bling says.

    So fun, seri­ous and inter­est­ing is the space that a pho­tog­ra­pher friend of the own­ers insisted on cap­tur­ing it in an art book.

    The suite offers numer­ous fea­tures and art to keep the mind fed. There is no down­town cookie cut­ter loft here,” Ms. Trib­bling says. “Abbey Lofts were sold with lit­tle fan­fare. Aca­d­e­mics live here — pro­fes­sors, lawyers and peo­ple who think for a living.”

    But if it’s not to the next owner’s taste, the art and decor can sim­ply be removed to trans­form the space into what­ever the new owner desires, she says. “You could even do a Cana­di­ana look with a sim­ple wood table and church pews.”

    The Bell Tower suite is listed for sale for $1.65-million.

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  • Buyers praise heavenly loft conversions

    By Derek Ray­maker – Globe and Mail

    If there is a higher power, would he or she pre­fer hard­wood floors or gran­ite coun­ter­tops? And would he or she want to pay $20,000 for a park­ing space?

    In the first half of the 20th cen­tury, the upright cit­i­zens of Toronto the Good dis­tin­guished them­selves as among the most god-fearing in the Great Domin­ion, enthu­si­as­ti­cally jam­ming into pews every Sunday.

    If Toron­to­ni­ans observe the same devo­tion to the divine cur­rently, they do so qui­etly and usu­ally in the pri­vacy of their own homes. This has left a lot of clergy and parish elders in a great quandary: Do they con­tinue to preach to thin­ning ranks of wor­ship­pers, or do they merge into a tighter cir­cle and offer up their prime real estate to the dark but nec­es­sary forces of commerce?

    The land may be entic­ing, but church struc­tures them­selves are of lim­ited use when it comes to any­thing other than the Lord’s work. But since 1999, when loft con­ver­sions went into full swing around Toronto, some under­used churches have been reborn as loft res­i­dences.

    These are not slam-dunk loft con­ver­sions when it comes to con­struc­tion or sales. Recon­fig­ur­ing the often angu­lar and rounded shapes of a church to suit the needs of buy­ers requires archi­tec­tural finesse, which does not come cheap, and there are almost always some ugly sur­prises to deal with after con­struc­tion begins. This could be any­thing from ter­mite con­trol to new masonry to being forced to get rid of splen­did stained-glass fea­tures for the greater good of main­tain­ing struc­tural integrity.

    All of these alter­ations are expen­sive, and these costs are in turn passed on to the buyer. Unless an addi­tion is included, most church struc­tures can’t really host more than 25 or 30 suites, mean­ing that the costs of an expen­sive restora­tion and con­ver­sion can’t be spread out over a large num­ber of buyers.

    On the buyer side, a church con­ver­sion is really a spe­cial­ized niche prod­uct. Many buy­ers may find bunk­ing down in a for­mer House of God to be some­thing of a nov­elty, but in resale terms, these prod­ucts often don’t have cer­tain fea­tures that help sus­tain the unit’s value, such as ter­race space, com­mon ameni­ties and parking.

    While these church loft con­ver­sions might have a lot of risks asso­ci­ated with them, they are not with­out their unique fea­tures, not the least of which is that they are often in res­i­den­tial areas known for their peace and quiet. Suites are also often more likely to have two lev­els and unique layouts.

    Those who do buy these suites are almost exclu­sively end-user res­i­dents – mean­ing they’re not going to rent out the units to ten­ants. This per­sonal com­mit­ment helps main­tain a seam­less aes­thetic quality.

    The most recent of these con­ver­sions to come on the mar­ket is The Church on Dover­court Road between Bloor and Col­lege streets, which will involve the cre­ation of 28 lofts in the hand­some neo-Gothic edi­fice of the for­mer Cen­ten­nial Methodist Church.

    Two blocks north, an unknown builder has yet to begin its con­ver­sion of a more aus­tere 1910 church into a 23-suite loft con­ver­sion project, the Westmoreland.

    A lit­tle fur­ther west, on Sun­ny­side Avenue in High Park, another Gothic revival Methodist church has been trans­formed into The Abbey, which recently com­pleted con­struc­tion. All large, these lofts range in size between 1,025 and 1,787 square feet.

    There is also Bob Mitchell’s Church Loft on Clare­mont, just north of Queen West. Another of his con­verted churches is The Glebe, likely the first of all Toronto church lofts. St. George on Shel­drake is the lux­ury loft of the bunch, with suites going up to almost 4,500 square feet with price tags close to $3 mil­lion. And there is the Vic­to­ria Lofts near Keele and Annette that is set to start con­struc­tion soon. And there is a rumour that the church on the cor­ner of Col­lege and Palmer­ston is about to have its own con­ver­sion facelift soon…

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