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Toronto Church Loft Conversions
Buyers praise heavenly loft conversions
By Derek Raymaker – Globe and Mail
If there is a higher power, would he or she prefer hardwood floors or granite countertops? And would he or she want to pay $20,000 for a parking space?
In the first half of the 20th century, the upright citizens of Toronto the Good distinguished themselves as among the most god-fearing in the Great Dominion, enthusiastically jamming into pews every Sunday.
If Torontonians observe the same devotion to the divine currently, they do so quietly and usually in the privacy of their own homes. This has left a lot of clergy and parish elders in a great quandary: Do they continue to preach to thinning ranks of worshippers, or do they merge into a tighter circle and offer up their prime real estate to the dark but necessary forces of commerce?
The land may be enticing, but church structures themselves are of limited use when it comes to anything other than the Lord’s work. But since 1999, when loft conversions went into full swing around Toronto, some underused churches have been reborn as loft residences.
These are not slam-dunk loft conversions when it comes to construction or sales. Reconfiguring the often angular and rounded shapes of a church to suit the needs of buyers requires architectural finesse, which does not come cheap, and there are almost always some ugly surprises to deal with after construction begins. This could be anything from termite control to new masonry to being forced to get rid of splendid stained-glass features for the greater good of maintaining structural integrity.
All of these alterations are expensive, and these costs are in turn passed on to the buyer. Unless an addition is included, most church structures can’t really host more than 25 or 30 suites, meaning that the costs of an expensive restoration and conversion can’t be spread out over a large number of buyers.
On the buyer side, a church conversion is really a specialized niche product. Many buyers may find bunking down in a former House of God to be something of a novelty, but in resale terms, these products often don’t have certain features that help sustain the unit’s value, such as terrace space, common amenities and parking.
While these church loft conversions might have a lot of risks associated with them, they are not without their unique features, not the least of which is that they are often in residential areas known for their peace and quiet. Suites are also often more likely to have two levels and unique layouts.
Those who do buy these suites are almost exclusively end-user residents – meaning they’re not going to rent out the units to tenants. This personal commitment helps maintain a seamless aesthetic quality.
The most recent of these conversions to come on the market was The Church on Dovercourt Road between Bloor and College streets, which now houses 28 lofts in the handsome neo-Gothic edifice of the former Centennial Methodist Church.
Two blocks north, Lux Group Inc. is well under way in its conversion of a more austere 1910 church into a 23-suite loft conversion project. With the least expensive suite priced at $499,000 for 1,057 square feet going up to over $700,000 for 1,900 square feet, you can see why these products aren’t in the ballpark for most condo buyers. Single-family homes in the surrounding Bloor and Dufferin area go for similar prices.
A little further west, on Sunnyside Avenue in High Park, another Gothic revival Methodist church has been transformed into The Abbey, which recently completed construction. Of the 24 suites in the grey limestone project, the most recent sale was well into the $700,000s.
Comment: With no factories or warehouses left to convert, watch for even more churches to be converted. Right now I have my eye on The Victoria Lofts, nearing completion at Annete and Medland. Just down the street is the old Czechoslovakian Baptist Church at 600 Annete. Watch for others on Wallace Avenue, Jones north of Queen, Parkdale and elsewhere…
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At a former church, this loft is like no other
Listed for $1.65-million, the light-filled, offbeat Bell Tower has $350,000 worth of upgrades
Connie Adair, National Post
With a mix of modern and medieval, the Bell Tower suite is a place that piques the interest of the visitor, makes them think — and makes them smile.
The former Howard Park Methodist Church on Sunnyside Avenue, in the Parkside and Bloor neighbourhood, once housed a nursery school, an auditorium, a basketball court and pews for more than 1,000 parishioners. The massive 1910 stone structure was bought by a developer in the early 2000s and was converted into residential lofts. In 2008, the first occupants began moving into The Abbey suites, no two of which are alike.
The owners of the Bell Tower put much thought and cash (about $350,000) into serious and not-so-serious upgrades throughout the 2,700-square-foot interior and 550-sq.-ft. exterior spaces (MLS# W1889416).
From the original 26-foot high cathedral ceiling in the open-concept living area to the industrial kitchen, exposed limestone walls and pipes to modern granites, this suite is “modern meets Gothic romance,” says real estate agent Lynn Tribbling of Coldwell Banker Terrequity Realty.
Wide open white spaces are punctuated with vibrant stained glass that stretches two storeys high and draws the eye upward, the visitor’s gaze stopping only to notice a lamb statue, or two, resting atop limestone outcroppings.
Subtle artwork in the hall takes the form of “wall spirits,” Ms. Tribbling says. “Parts of a nun and a pope peek out from the wall — a nose, half of a pope’s hat, a hand holding a candle — with musing rather than scary faces.”
Granite floors in the living room have insets of 32×32-inch etched-glass floor art. In the foyer, a Holstein “holy cow” statue stands beside massive wood bookshelves reminiscent of the stacks at the University of Toronto library, she says.
The space was designed to be not only beautiful, but functional too. The sleek kitchen, “the beating heart of the main floor,” has no upper cabinetry for a clean look, she says. “A 20-foot walk-in pantry was added to offer much-needed storage and a place to keep a wine collection.”
A highly polished stainless steel staircase offers access to the upper levels, where there is a master bedroom with an ensuite spa bathroom complete with shoji screens, a spa tub, heated floors and a door to one of three terraces.
The third-floor office, where the owners, a university professor and a school principal, write books and prepare speaking notes, is a minimalist space drenched in natural light.
The outdoor turret landing has artificial grass, Ms. Tribbling says. “The owners were recently shopping for an antique lawn mower to put on the artificial grass.”
From the top of the church tower are lake and park views.
The media room, the only room that isn’t white, has red walls and stained glass windows. It’s like being inside a glass paperweight, Ms. Tribbling says.
So fun, serious and interesting is the space that a photographer friend of the owners insisted on capturing it in an art book.
“The suite offers numerous features and art to keep the mind fed. There is no downtown cookie cutter loft here,” Ms. Tribbling says. “Abbey Lofts were sold with little fanfare. Academics live here — professors, lawyers and people who think for a living.”
But if it’s not to the next owner’s taste, the art and decor can simply be removed to transform the space into whatever the new owner desires, she says. “You could even do a Canadiana look with a simple wood table and church pews.”
The Bell Tower suite is listed for sale for $1.65-million.
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Buyers praise heavenly loft conversions
By Derek Raymaker – Globe and Mail
If there is a higher power, would he or she prefer hardwood floors or granite countertops? And would he or she want to pay $20,000 for a parking space?
In the first half of the 20th century, the upright citizens of Toronto the Good distinguished themselves as among the most god-fearing in the Great Dominion, enthusiastically jamming into pews every Sunday.
If Torontonians observe the same devotion to the divine currently, they do so quietly and usually in the privacy of their own homes. This has left a lot of clergy and parish elders in a great quandary: Do they continue to preach to thinning ranks of worshippers, or do they merge into a tighter circle and offer up their prime real estate to the dark but necessary forces of commerce?
The land may be enticing, but church structures themselves are of limited use when it comes to anything other than the Lord’s work. But since 1999, when loft conversions went into full swing around Toronto, some underused churches have been reborn as loft residences.
These are not slam-dunk loft conversions when it comes to construction or sales. Reconfiguring the often angular and rounded shapes of a church to suit the needs of buyers requires architectural finesse, which does not come cheap, and there are almost always some ugly surprises to deal with after construction begins. This could be anything from termite control to new masonry to being forced to get rid of splendid stained-glass features for the greater good of maintaining structural integrity.
All of these alterations are expensive, and these costs are in turn passed on to the buyer. Unless an addition is included, most church structures can’t really host more than 25 or 30 suites, meaning that the costs of an expensive restoration and conversion can’t be spread out over a large number of buyers.
On the buyer side, a church conversion is really a specialized niche product. Many buyers may find bunking down in a former House of God to be something of a novelty, but in resale terms, these products often don’t have certain features that help sustain the unit’s value, such as terrace space, common amenities and parking.
While these church loft conversions might have a lot of risks associated with them, they are not without their unique features, not the least of which is that they are often in residential areas known for their peace and quiet. Suites are also often more likely to have two levels and unique layouts.
Those who do buy these suites are almost exclusively end-user residents – meaning they’re not going to rent out the units to tenants. This personal commitment helps maintain a seamless aesthetic quality.
The most recent of these conversions to come on the market is The Church on Dovercourt Road between Bloor and College streets, which will involve the creation of 28 lofts in the handsome neo-Gothic edifice of the former Centennial Methodist Church.
Two blocks north, an unknown builder has yet to begin its conversion of a more austere 1910 church into a 23-suite loft conversion project, the Westmoreland.
A little further west, on Sunnyside Avenue in High Park, another Gothic revival Methodist church has been transformed into The Abbey, which recently completed construction. All large, these lofts range in size between 1,025 and 1,787 square feet.
There is also Bob Mitchell’s Church Loft on Claremont, just north of Queen West. Another of his converted churches is The Glebe, likely the first of all Toronto church lofts. St. George on Sheldrake is the luxury loft of the bunch, with suites going up to almost 4,500 square feet with price tags close to $3 million. And there is the Victoria Lofts near Keele and Annette that is set to start construction soon. And there is a rumour that the church on the corner of College and Palmerston is about to have its own conversion facelift soon…
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