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First-time buyers find Toronto real estate market hot as ever

Toronto real estate: Ottawa’s efforts to cool house prices have slowed condo mar­ket, but GTA house prices con­tinue to climb

Susan Pigg – Toronto Star

First-time home­buy­ers Jody and Michael Fegel­man have heard a lot of talk over the last year about Canada’s cool­ing hous­ing mar­ket. All the cou­ple have felt is the sting of its heat.

Dur­ing their 1–1/2-year search for a home for their two young chil­dren, the Fegel­mans have been on the los­ing end of three gru­el­ing bid­ding wars. They have paid for a home inspec­tion on a place some­one else got by pay­ing $80,000 over the ask­ing price.

They’ve felt heartache, dis­ap­point­ment and fear that their chil­dren Jack, 5, and Lilly, 2−1÷2, would be renters for life.

My par­ents just kept say­ing, ‘Wait. Prices are going to come down,’ says Fegel­man. “But the truth is, there is a boom going on in Toronto. I don’t think things will change or bid­ding wars will stop.”

Com­ment: How many times have I heard that? Prices don’t go down, they really don’t. Maybe a few times in the 1990s after the silly bub­ble of the late 1980s, but that is. Prices for every­thing, in gen­eral, rise over time. It is just infla­tion. From cars to choco­late bars, the cost always increases. Think about what you paid for your first car, what did it cost to go to the moves 20 years ago? Over the longer term, house prices will never, ever, go down.

Over the last four years, Finance Min­is­ter Jim Fla­herty has tight­ened mort­gage lend­ing rules in a des­per­ate bid to bring rea­son to the red-hot hous­ing mar­ket, espe­cially in Toronto and Van­cou­ver where prices have hit the stratos­phere dur­ing the last decade, pro­pelled largely by low inter­est rates.

That, com­bined with surg­ing sup­ply of new condo projects, has def­i­nitely sent a chill through Toronto’s high­rise hous­ing sec­tor since last sum­mer, but demand for lowrise houses shows no signs of let­ting up.

Com­ment: Not so much. Prices for con­dos are now start­ing to rise again. Sup­ply dropped, sell­ers pulled their list­ings off the mar­ket, many rent­ing them out in the crazy rental mar­ket. There is no fire sale, no pan­icked sales. So, yeah, the chill is cer­tainly off the condo market.

Although home sales were down 11.5% and list­ings up slightly as of mid March over a year ear­lier, unre­lent­ing com­pe­ti­tion among buy­ers for too few prop­er­ties for sale — espe­cially in the City of Toronto — saw prices jump 6% across the GTA, accord­ing to the Toronto Real Estate Board.

Com­ment: That is an aver­age of 6% for houses AND condos.

Semi-detached homes sold for an aver­age $622,044 in the City of Toronto in mid-March, up a whop­ping 12.2% from a year ear­lier (they were up just 2.9% in the 905 regions to $398,328.)

Detached homes climbed by 7.2% to an aver­age $909,910 in Toronto, out­paced slightly in the 905 regions were a 7.7% climb saw aver­age prices hit $603,797.

Town­houses in the 416 region climbed by 8.2% in mid March year over year to $447,460, com­pared to an almost 7% increase in the 905 regions to an aver­age $375,420.

Even the cool­ing condo sec­tor, where resale condo sales were down almost 10% in mid-March year-over-year and list­ings have been climb­ing, saw price growth of 1.9% in the City of Toronto, com­pared to just 0.2% in the 905 regions.

We’re see­ing a major cul­ture shift and a com­plete rede­f­i­n­i­tion of what’s desir­able and the (hous­ing) mar­ket is reflect­ing that now,” says vet­eran urban plan­ner Ken Greenberg.

There is a new North Amer­i­can dream, and it’s no longer to have the sub­ur­ban house and the fleet of cars. It’s liv­ing where you can buy your gro­ceries on foot and you have access to transit.”

Com­ment: Which is a HUGE com­po­nent of the condo mar­ket. And yet the naysay­ers seem to ignore that fact. Cou­ple it with afford­abil­ity and investors, it is easy to see why the condo mar­ket in Toronto is so strong.

With the peak buy­ing and sell­ing period, spring mar­ket, just around the cor­ner, Canada Mort­gage and Hous­ing Cor­po­ra­tion is see­ing some inter­est­ing indi­ca­tors as well.

We’re not see­ing as many first-time buy­ers get­ting into the mar­ket right now because of afford­abil­ity, but there is a con­sid­er­able pool of peo­ple who have bought over the past 10 years and have out­grown their con­do­mini­ums,” says Shaun Hilde­brand, CMHC’s Toronto mar­ket analyst.

There is strong demand for move-up prop­er­ties fairly close to the core.”

The biggest supply-demand imbal­ance right now in the GTA is for semi-detached homes priced between $500,000 and $700,000 in areas like Ron­ces­valles and Leslieville, says Hildebrand.

Com­ment: Any­thing in that price range gen­er­ates cage matches – to the death!

Even some areas of Durham Region, close to Toronto’s bor­der, have seen a tight­en­ing of sup­ply because of first-time buy­ers look­ing for more afford­able hous­ing options, he added.

Com­ment: There are bid­ding wars galore on houses in West Pick­er­ing, near the Scar­bor­ough border.

At the same time, demand for down­town rentals unlike any­thing seen in the last 20 years has dri­ven rents to mortgage-like lev­els and is start­ing to tip the bal­ance in favour of own­ing, given slip­ping condo prices and low inter­est rates, says Hildebrand.

Com­ment: The rental vacancy rate is now under 1% in Toronto, demand is WAY above supply.

Despite what sounds like all good news for the hous­ing mar­ket, sell­ing real estate has never been harder, says vet­eran bro­ker Sally Cook. And it’s bring­ing out the worst in the indus­try: Under­pric­ing to drive up com­pe­ti­tion for what lit­tle is out there and hold­ing off accept­ing offers for days to cre­ate a frenzy of longing.

It’s become emo­tion­ally, phys­i­cally and finan­cially drain­ing,” for would-be home buy­ers, as well as agents, says Cook. “I decided last year to con­cen­trate my efforts with first-time buy­ers look­ing for con­dos. There’s lots of inven­tory and I don’t have to fight over it.”

Com­ment: This is not new. Bid­ding wars really took off in the crazy mar­ket of 2007 – and have not stopped since. Peo­ple really should be used to it by now. You don’t have to like it, but you should not be surprised.

The frus­tra­tion of what turned out to be a 1–1/2-year search for a place to call home con­vinced the Fegel­mans they needed to try some­thing dif­fer­ent. On the sug­ges­tion of their agent, Ira Jelinek, they started min­ing MLS data ear­lier this month for houses that had been lan­guish­ing on the mar­ket for weeks.

They were the only bid­ders for a derelict semi-detached house in the Vaughan Rd. and St. Clair Ave. W. area that had listed since Octo­ber. Orig­i­nally priced at $599,000, they were the only bid­ders and got it for $460,000.

That’s because it needs over $100,000 in renovations.

Com­ment: And yet they could prob­a­bly have bought a nice house for $560,000 and saved the has­sle of ren­o­va­tions. But it is a smart move, stay out of the fights and avoid the HGTV houses. Find some­thing you can work with in an area you like and make it nice in time.

It’s very hard to cool or con­trol a mar­ket when you have so many buy­ers chas­ing the same type of houses,” says Jelinek. “Agents who sell in my demo­graphic, to peo­ple in their late 20s and early 30s, are feel­ing the effects of this mar­ket, too.

The good thing is, this will weed out a lot of the real­tors who’ll just say, ‘It’s too hard right now to be an agent.’ This is when the good ones will stick out.”

Com­ment: I don’t know about that…

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    Toronto’s exist­ing home mar­ket sur­prised econ­o­mists with a better-than-expected resur­gence in June

    Tracy Hanes – Toronto Star

    Remem­ber last win­ter when the Toronto real estate mar­ket pulse could barely be detected?

    The patient is not only recov­er­ing, but appears to be return­ing to robust health, accord­ing to five of top Toronto real estate bro­kers and mar­ket­ing consultants.

    There was plenty of opti­mism at a recent round table dis­cus­sion the Star held with these experts, who shared their views dur­ing a can­did and wide-ranging dis­cus­sion on the cur­rent state of the Toronto real estate market.

    The par­tic­i­pants included mod­er­a­tor Barry Lyon, senior part­ner and pres­i­dent, N. Barry Lyon Con­sul­tants Ltd., and pan­el­lists Bar­bara Lawlor, pres­i­dent of Baker Real Estate Inc.; Deb­bie Cosic, part­ner in In2ition Realty; Michael Wil­son, prin­ci­pal of Inter­na­tional Home Mar­ket­ing Group Ltd.; and Andy Brethour, pres­i­dent of PMA Brethour.

    All agreed that Decem­ber, Jan­u­ary and Feb­ru­ary were “a deep freeze” for sales as Lawlor described it, but since then, sales have picked up. In fact, she pointed out, sales in May and early June have out­done May and June of 2008, accord­ing to Toronto Real Estate Board fig­ures. And the aver­age price for an MLS resale home was $407,716 accord­ing to TREB, up by 2% com­pared to last year.

    Let’s put in it per­spec­tive,” said Lyon. “New homes sales down about 60% for the same period – why are resales so hot and why are new sales lin­ger­ing somewhat?”

    The biggest dif­fer­ence is the ven­dors in resale are flex­i­ble,” said Cosic. “They lis­ten to their clients, they lis­ten to the mar­ket­place … the new (home) clien­tele is some­times not as flexible.”

    Cosic said recently, there has actu­ally been a short sup­ply of list­ings, and many peo­ple list­ing are get­ting 95% of their ask­ing price.

    Com­ment: Actu­ally, in many areas the aver­age price is over 100% because there are so many bid­ding wars. Some neigh­bour­hoods see mul­ti­ple offers on almost every new prop­erty. I would be sur­prised to see sell­ing prices under 98% of list.

    If it’s sharply priced, peo­ple are com­ing in and bid­ding up,” added Wilson.

    Devel­op­ers don’t have the abil­ity to respond as quickly as resellers in drop­ping, said Wil­son, because if they have sold a large num­ber of units that under con­struc­tion, “they have to make sure they don’t devalue invest­ment past pur­chasers have made, so they are not about to tam­per with price list.”

    Brethour said in every reces­sion, the con­sumer moves to cer­tainty and that’s what the resale mar­ket offers: “It’s the see­ing and believ­ing, the touch and feel, being able to close in 60 days or 90 days.”

    And while the resale mar­ket may have been quicker to respond, that doesn’t mean new home and condo builders aren’t will­ing to compromise.

    I have never seen devel­op­ers so eager to make deals and nego­ti­ate as they are now,” said Lawlor.

    We hit a reset but­ton and have had to reset our pack­ag­ing, our prod­uct, our pric­ing. You can reset much faster in resale,” said Brethour.

    First-time buy­ers are lead­ing the mar­ket, they said, spurred on by record low inter­est rates and the great­est afford­abil­ity of the last decade.

    I think right now is first-time buyer par­adise. We have droves of first-time buy­ers com­ing into our sales offices, along the Shep­pard cor­ri­dor, any­where there is a sub­way and what we find is if we send 20 peo­ple a week to get qual­i­fied, maybe 10 of them are going to come back qual­i­fied,” said Lawlor.

    There’s a great desire for home own­er­ship, not nec­es­sar­ily the pock­et­book to make the deal hap­pen. The first-time buy­ers are dri­ving the mar­ket at the moment.”

    What’s not going over as well, she said, are lux­ury con­dos, and her firm has had to turn to over­seas buyers.

    She also said mid-range builders are the ones most eager to offer incen­tives currently.

    Wil­son described the down­turn as a “millionaire’s reces­sion” say­ing “they were the ones who lost all their money in the stock mar­ket and that’s why higher end is affected.”

    Afford­abil­ity is key to be suc­cess­ful in the cur­rent mar­ket, the pan­el­lists said. Some lowrise builders have intro­duced new smaller, stream­lined homes that have been pop­u­lar while condo projects will also likely get smaller, with fewer amenities.

    Toronto con­dos will con­tinue to be an inte­gral part of the mar­ket, the bro­kers agreed.

    What I’m see­ing hap­pen­ing is con­sumer accep­tance of the lifestyle, whether it’s 416, 905, Toronto con­dos have arrived like you can’t believe,” said Lyon.

    What the pan­el­lists have found is that a lot of own­ers are not Canadian-born and come from coun­tries where high­rise liv­ing is a nor­mal way of life. The con­tin­u­ing large influx of new immi­grants, many of whom are com­mit­ted to home own­er­ship, will help to fuel the Toronto condo market.

    Incen­tives offered by devel­op­ers, despite being rather mod­est in some cases, have also helped pro­duce a flurry of sales.

    The pan­elists also talked openly about “some­thing we often tip­toe around,” Lyon said – that’s investor buy­ers. He said no one is exactly sure how many there are, but there is gen­eral agree­ment they make up 25% to 30% of the Toronto condo market.

    We had a launch two weeks ago in the pour­ing rain and we had peo­ple sleep­ing out­side overnight,” said Cosic. “They were pre­dom­i­nantly investors, who were South Asian, Korean, East­ern Euro­pean. They are not that sophis­ti­cated, they are not peo­ple who deal in the stock mar­ket, they have had 10 years in a good econ­omy and have some money saved away. They are good, long-term investors.”

    Wil­son agreed. “They are not high rollers, they are not play­ing with dis­pos­able income, this is real money they’ve saved and they are not going to walk away. This is an investor who is going to close.”

    Despite the high num­ber of new condo units, the five were con­fi­dent that Toronto can con­tinue to absorb the num­bers of suites that will be ready for occu­pancy now through 2011.

    Brethour pointed out that no rental hous­ing stock of any con­se­quence has been built since rent con­trol came in dur­ing the 1970s – and with 100,000 new immi­grants arriv­ing in the GTA each year, rental con­dos are needed. The rental mar­ket can eas­ily absorb these units and Lyon pointed out that while the vacancy rate among tra­di­tional units is 3%, it’s less than half a per cent for rental con­dos, which com­mand higher rents.

    The pan­el­lists had their doubts about the fea­si­bil­ity of three-bedroom fam­ily units in con­dos, pro­moted by city coun­cil­lors like Adam Vaughan.

    We intro­duced 30 units in Mis­sis­sauga with Daniels (Corp.) and didn’t get the feel­ing that there’s a tremen­dous appetite for it,” said Lawlor.

    Even though we get fam­i­lies com­ing in to sales offices in droves, it’s not because they are going to live there with lit­tle kids, they are usu­ally there to sup­port a fam­ily member.”

    Cosic said nonethe­less, more condo projects are includ­ing family-friendly amenities.

    Wil­son said a three-or-four bed­room apartment-style condo in the city costs $400,000 to $500,000 “and that opens up a lot of oppor­tu­ni­ties in the suburbs.”

    High­rise liv­ing is not par­tic­u­larly con­ducive to fam­ily liv­ing, they said, but what they did feel would be a pop­u­lar trend was stacked houses and condo town­houses, cater­ing to fam­i­lies who want ground-oriented housing.

    Not only mar­ket demand will drive this trend, said Brethour – because high­rise devel­op­ers will have more chal­lenges get­ting financ­ing, they will look to less costly projects that can pro­vide almost the same densities.

    Because of the scarcity of ser­vice­able, lowrise land in the GTA, there will be more inten­si­fi­ca­tion in the 905 to keep prod­uct affordable.

    The topic of munic­i­pal devel­op­ment charges brought groans.

    The same gov­ern­ments that are encour­ag­ing us to build more effi­ciently are tax­ing the beje­sus out of mul­ti­ple fam­ily hous­ing,” said Lyon. “We’re pay­ing for all that sprawl, parks, schools, aging pipes in the ground. Devel­op­ers are being made to pay through the nose to sup­port the lower den­sity hous­ing habit.”

    Indi­rect taxes have a huge impact on buy­ers, all agreed. Wil­son said that dri­ves peo­ple either to resale or to areas out­side of the GTA.

    The pan­el­lists said Toronto’s mar­ket can­not be com­pared to oth­ers such as Cal­gary or Van­cou­ver, as this city did not see the wild price jumps.

    What also bodes well for con­sumers, they said, is the choice for the con­sumer, with 320 new sites in the city and GTA, rang­ing from urban to sub­ur­ban, small and large.

    We’ve been bom­barded by CNN and other pub­li­ca­tions about how the bad reces­sion is and it’s not that bad,” said Wilson.

    It seems to be in a V-shaped recov­ery and we need to sta­bi­lize people’s think­ing, need to get good news out there.”

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