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You want that dream home? Why you’ll have to join the line in this thin housing market
Carolyn Ireland – The Globe and Mail
Toronto real estate agent Monte Burris looked out the front window of a Sunnyside Avenue house recently and saw a small crowd lined up on the sidewalk. That was 45 minutes before he was scheduled to receive the hordes at the first open house as the property hit the market with an asking price of $1.45-million.
One week later, the sellers had accepted an offer of $1.65-million.
During the intervening days, they had also repelled a handful of bully offers and turned down the seven other bidders on official offer night.
“It was obvious early on that everyone wanted the property,” says Mr. Burris of Keller Williams Real Estate Inc.
The red-brick detached house has six bedrooms and five bathrooms. Recently renovated, it has a gas fireplace in the foyer, a large kitchen, and an expanse of glass overlooking the deck and backyard.
When the first bullies launched their opening salvo, Mr. Burris advised his clients to wait until the scheduled night for reviewing offers. Bullies often step up with an eye-popping offer, but with the proviso that it’s only good for a short time. They generally refuse to participate in a bidding war.
But listings for detached houses are so thin that Mr. Burris knew the prospective buyers would likely come back to the table.
“I was pretty confident they would all show up on offer night. There’s still very little inventory on the market.”
This one sale is emblematic of the fickle Toronto market right now – or as agents like Mr. Burris are saying more and more – the two Toronto markets.
Comment: True enough. I have a little semi in Hillcrest that people are lining up to get into. Open house is today, I am afraid of the hordes that will come…
“Condos are a completely different market,” says Mr. Burris.
That segment is awash in “inventory” as agents say. Sellers are forced to cut their prices or wait a long time for a sale in some cases.
Comment: For some, not for all. Anything generic is sitting, as there are tons of similar units available. The larger or unique ones, with a view or in a boutique building, they are still moving nicely. The problem is that there are more and more boring little white boxes, the condo market is awash in sameness.
Detached houses will generally attract multiple offers if they are renovated and located in a prime neighbourhood. Condo and loft units will attract multiple offers in many cases if they are in a boutique building or supremely well located. They need to stand out from the competition.
The numbers show how unpredictable the market is now: sales in the Greater Toronto Area remained flat with a dip of about 1% in the first half of April compared with the same period last year. That’s not as grim as the double-digit drops recorded in previous months, but it’s not the spring bounce many agents were hoping for.
Comment: Sales jumped 16% from –17% to –1% and that is not a big bounce? Sure looks like a large increase to me.
Meanwhile, the average price rose 4.3% in the first two weeks of April from the same period last year. Listings rose 16% in the first half of April compared with the first half of April, 2012.
Comment: After listings being down, sellers had held back when things looked bad. Less listings and fewer sales, now more listings and higher sales. Seems simple enough. And better weather helps for sure. Spring 2012 saw 25 degrees in February for Pete’s sake, which really boosted sales. This year it was cold and crappy until almost the end of April. These things make a difference.
The numbers were buoyed by sales of single-family homes in the suburbs, according to the Toronto Real Estate Board.
In the City of Toronto, sales of detached houses slipped 3.4% compared with the first half of April last year. Condo sales in Toronto declined 4.3% year over year for the same period.
Chander Chaddah of Sutton Group-Associates Brokerage Inc. specializes in the Roncesvalles area. He says sales are definitely down and the market remains spotty.
He’s advising his clients who want to buy to aim for a house that does not incite a frenzy.
“I had to talk clients out of an offer last week.”
The house was listed with an asking price of $849,000 and Mr. Chaddah’s clients thought they might be able to stretch to an offer of $875,000 or so. Mr. Chaddah checked out the number of bids on the offer date and told his clients not to get their hopes up. “We don’t have a chance,” he advised them.
The house sold for $1.020-million.
Mr. Chaddah says many buyers seem to fall into the trap of bidding for a house as soon as they know that other people want it.
Comment: I cannot say that I have ever seen that. But I have seen them try to throw in a low bid “just in case” they get it. The problem is, they won’t. And if there are 20 bids, at least 10 of them are hail mary bids hoping beyond hope that it goes for list price or less. It won’t. What that does, though, is push up the serious bids. All you have to go on in a bidding war is the number of bids. And generally you see the sale price around $5–10,000 per bid over asking. So 10 bids could push an $849,000 house to $900,000 but 20 will easily send it to $1,020,000. The people who do not want the price to go too high are the very ones pushing it up. Had they stayed out of it, the house would have sold for $100,000 less than it did. Now, the next house on the street is listed for $899,000 with bids and sells for $1,100,000 and so on… The people who were never in the running for the house have now pushed the prices even higher. Exactly what they complain about. I try to explain this to people but they just get mad at me. They think it is their right to make an offer… “just in case”…
“There’s no question that there’s this perverse need for affirmation.”
He says house hunters who hear that sellers who find out that they won’t have to join a contest – either because the sellers haven’t set an offer date or because no rivals have shown up – then start to question their own judgment.
“The question starts to creep in, ‘what am I missing?’”
Lots of good houses are overlooked that way, he says, and he thinks buyers often end up paying too much as a result.
“I do more talking people out of houses than I ever do talking people into houses,” he says.
Usually buyers know pretty quickly if a house feels right to them. If it does, he encourages them to be grateful if other buyers are passing it buy.
Comment: Exactly. Your gut tells you it is the right place. If you don’t know it the moment you walk in, then it is not for you. You should never have to convince yourself or justify it.
“If we think it’s a good house, it’s a good house and we don’t need three other people to confirm that. Then I’ll tell them, let’s see if we can go in and knock a couple of bucks off the asking price.”
Mr. Chaddah is wishing that many more sellers will decide to list soon. Often people who are thinking of putting a “for sale” sign on the lawn will wait for spring flowers and budding trees.
“More product,” says Mr. Chaddah. “That’s what I hope happens.”
At the same time, he tells condo sellers that they have to be patient.
“There’s a ton of product out there.”
A really slick condo townhouse, or a high-rise unit with a really good view will sometimes stir up competing bidders, he says.
He worked with a buyer recently who bought a nicely renovated condo on Quebec Avenue in High Park. The asking price was $489,000 and the buyer beat out the other contenders with an offer of $511,000.
“Even when it goes over list, it’s more measured,” Mr. Chaddah says of the action.
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Laurin & Natalie Jeffrey are Toronto Realtors with Century 21 Regal Realty.
They did not write these articles, they just reproduce them here for people
who are interested in Toronto real estate. They do not work for any builders.
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Analysis: Canadian housing — bursting bubble or gentle landing?
Andrea Hopkins – Reuters
It’s looking like an unsettling spring in Canadian housing, a market that has proven far more even-keeled and less scary for investors in recent years than in the United States.
In what is traditionally the best season of the year for real estate agents, Toronto agent Ecko Jay says the industry is seeing far fewer buyers, a result of tighter lending rules, high prices and fear of a bubble. In Toronto alone, sales dropped 40 percent in the first quarter from a year earlier, making homeowners and investors jumpy.
Comment: That is total BS. Sales dropped 17%, NOT 40%. Please, try to keep the exaggerations from sounding like outright lies.
“Some people want to cash in and pull out now,” said Jay, a 26-year veteran of the Toronto housing market, noting some are spooked by worst-case predictions of a 20 percent drop in prices from current levels.
Comment: And those who did that before lost a lot of money. The single prediction of a 25% drop was made over a year ago – and prices ROSE 6% since then. So do you really believe that when it has been shown to be wrong?
“They say, ‘Before it gets low, let’s sell,’” Jay added. “And some of my clients want to sell and rent, hoping that when it goes down they will pick up something at a better price. Nobody has a crystal ball.”
Comment: But prices are rising, every month. Why would anyone sell? There are no indications of a drop coming, nothing at all. Supply is less than demand, demand is strong, rates are low, rentals are tight, immigration is high, incomes are rising – where is the trigger for anything to fall? Nowhere!
But then there are Canadian policymakers, economists and market watchers who have the next best thing to a crystal ball. Their data and analysis point not to a bursting of the bubble like in the United States in 2007-08, when prices from peak to trough dropped 35%, but rather a gentle easing in Canadian housing prices, or perhaps just a momentary pause.
Comment: And there you have it, the voice of reason. Some areas of the country will see a little drop, some a flattening, some just slower growth. But overall, the trend will be flat or small increases. Over any 5–10 year period, prices will only ever go up.
Naysayers believe Canada may be too optimistic and relying heavily on that old saw that Canada is not nearly as reckless as the United States. After all, the debt-to-income ratio of Canadians is at a record high, close to the levels experienced in the United States before its market crashed, and home ownership is at nearly 70%, also a record and five points more than its neighbors to the south.
Comment: Debt to income really does not influence house prices. It only comes into play if things go south – which they are not going to do. What happened in the US was due to lying banks, predatory lending and outright criminal activity. That couple with dumb buyers who did not read the fine print and mortgages whose rates tripled from one month to another. There are no similarities, none.
But Canada does have some things going for it, most notably a move by the government to tighten mortgage lending rules four times in five years, most recently in July 2012, which has taken some buyers out of the market, dampening demand.
Comment: And made sure that those who did buy were put through very stringent guidelines.
“If you look at the developments over the last year in Canada and compare them to the situation in the U.S. before the crisis, there is a clear difference,” said Julien Reynaud, an economist at the International Monetary Fund who follows Canada.
“It is not just a question of housing supply and demand; it is rather a difference in the system of mortgage finance.”
Canadians have more equity in their homes than Americans did, the default rate is lower, the sub-prime market is tiny, and mortgage interest is not tax-deductible, so there’s no incentive to build up debt.
Comment: Their default rate hit 35% in some areas, fully 1 in 3 mortgages were not paid. Our rate in Canada is 0.34%. Barely a third of a percent. To put that in perspective, their rate is 100x higher than ours. And in absolute numbers, with 10x the population, it means the US had 1,000 times more mortgage defaults than Canada. Three orders of magnitude. So yeah, our default rate is just a little lower.
Finally, mortgages are structured as recourse loans in which assets other than the house are held as collateral. That makes Canadian homeowners less likely to walk away than their American cousins.
“What makes Canadian housing different makes it stronger,” says Tom Lewandowski, who analyses Canadian banks for Edward Jones in St. Louis.
LEARNING FROM THE NEIGHBORS
Lewandowski believes Canada will not suffer a U.S.-style housing crash simply because policymakers had the benefit of watching it happen next door.
“What we experienced here in the U.S. with housing markets and regulators goes directly to the attitude and changes the minister of finance has made in Canada. A regulator who is being proactive is taking Step One in making sure the housing market doesn’t find itself in a bubble,” Lewandowski said.
Both Bank of Canada Governor Mark Carney and Finance Minister Jim Flaherty have been on the march against a housing bubble for years, aware how low rates and loose lending standards in the United States ignited a boom and bust there.
The central bank has held rates low since the global financial crisis because growth remains tepid and global woes weigh on Canada’s export market, and Canadians can find a five-year mortgage rate below 3%.
But the government’s gradual tightening of rules for borrowers – a firm admission that the market was hotter than anyone was comfortable with – has taken some steam out of the market, and economists, like Carney, seem to believe a soft landing may be at hand.
“We’re encouraged by the fact the level of housing starts has come down to slightly below demographic demand, as we see right now, there’s still more adjustments to go,” he said in testimony to Parliament last week. “We’re encouraged by the evolution of house prices in a number of markets. We’re on the path to a balanced evolution of the household sector and we all have to continue to be vigilant.”
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Contact the Jeffrey Team for more information – 416−388−1960
Laurin & Natalie Jeffrey are Toronto Realtors with Century 21 Regal Realty.
They did not write these articles, they just reproduce them here for people
who are interested in Toronto real estate. They do not work for any builders.
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Toronto real estate: Wet, cold month leaves home-sellers looking for ray of sunshine
Traditional spring market for Toronto real estate feels added dampening effect — weather.
Susan Pigg – Toronto Star
In a city stacked with cookie-cutter condos, Chris Parry has a rare window on the world.
The 400-square-foot rooftop patio is Parry’s favourite “room” in his west-end condominium townhouse and one of its biggest selling features.
Until this week, things had been a little wet and frosty on his third-floor perch — so wet that it’s the first April he hasn’t been able to oil the wood decking, put out plants and hang his hammock.
More importantly, Parry has been delayed by weeks in listing his place at King and Niagara Sts. for sale, all because of the weather.
“The rooftop is one of the biggest upgrades in my unit and one of the reasons I bought the place,” says Parry. “If I didn’t want to show it off, the place would have been listed two months.”
Thanks to one of the dingiest Aprils in recent memory, this much-anticipated spring real estate market has been, at least until now, far more soggy than sunny.
Comment: But now the weather is better and buyers are out in droves. Just had 50 people come through my open house!
Across the GTA, proud homeowners like Mel Mills have been frantically watching the Weather Channel and pressing their realtors to hold off listing — in Mills’ case, until he could open the pool at his Glen Abbey home and the expensive landscaping on his ravine lot was in bloom.
In the end, Mills had to make do with buds and slapped up a for sale sign last week. He was finally able to finish off exterior painting late this week, just as the buds were giving way to a few blooms.
“We really shouldn’t have listed it yet,” says Mills. “When all the leaves and flowers are in, our backyard is completely secluded. None of that is showing off. We’re missing out on one of the big selling features of our home.”
Weather is always “a very large factor” in kick-starting the peak spring house-buying spree, says Queen’s University real estate professor John Andrew.
Comment: Which is why last spring was so crazy, the weather was nice starting in February. Hard to compare a 20-degree March with one covered in snow. Add in tighter mortgage rules and it is easy to see why March 2012 had 17% more sales than March 2013. Then in April the weather got better and the difference was only 0.4%. Yet most of the press would have you believe that the sales difference was the beginning of the apocalypse.
Many sellers aren’t keen to list until they can make top dollar from the tens of thousands they’ve plowed into decks, pools and backyards. Buyers aren’t interested in house hunting, and chances are slim they’ll trip across a great house unexpectedly while out on their bike when it’s cold and wet.
“Even if things start to pick up this weekend, April is done,” says Andrew. “A lot of people, like me, were waiting to see if there was bit of turn-around with this spring market” in the face of house, and especially condo, sales that started slumping last summer.
“I think April is going to be flat for sales, but hopefully May traffic will pick up.”
Sales, and prices, did pick up as expected in April over March, as is the seasonal norm, says Jason Mercer, senior market analyst for TREB, but listings continue to lag.
Comment: April and May are the traditional busy months. Some articles, in an effort to make things look bad, even claimed that February was the start of the “traditional” spring market – and thus, since sales were down, it meant the market was about to crash. Actually, February is normally a dead month and this past one had a blizzard every other day. So yeah, I think that was a more reasonable explanation.
Toronto Real Estate Board numbers show that listings were actually up as of mid-April by about 15%, with 8,770 new properties for sale across the GTA compared to 7,580 a year earlier. (Sales were down almost 6% year over year, and prices up 3.2%.) But it won’t be clear until full-month statistics are released in the next few days what a dampening effect, if any, the lack of sunshine and even lingering snow flurries played in what’s traditionally one of the busiest home-buying months of the year.
Realtors like Adrienne Farquhar have been working with clients for weeks now to get interiors ready to go and anticipates a flurry of new listings over the next two weeks as the weather improves.
“I see this spring market extending far further into June, more aggressively and positively than in the past,” says Farquhar. “It might just be a later spring market than usual.”
Comment: Makes sense to me.
Diane Black, whose Stagesense company works with realtors and sellers, largely in the Mississauga and Oakville areas, to get homes ready for sale, describes this as “one of the worst springs I’ve seen.”
“Everyone was optimistic that we would see an upswing in the market in January and February, but it didn’t really happen. Then we got hit by the weather,” says Black.
“Our curb appeal, in some ways, has to be higher because there’s more of it” on bigger suburban lots. “But it also becomes more of an eyesore when trees and shrubs haven’t filled in. Of course, you can use pictures to show what it usually looks like, but that’s not quite the same.”
This may all seem like small, silly stuff, but in the age of the “HGTV effect” — buyers who won’t settle for anything but a knockout, no-work home — it all adds up in the final sale price.
“We know that buyers make their decisions quickly, and that the first decision is made online,” says Black. “You can get a great feel for the inside of a house on MLS now, but the exterior is a big reason they are coming out to see the house.”
Comment: And this is just one year, as was last year, as next year will be. They are all different, for different reasons. Don’t read too much into the variations!
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Contact the Jeffrey Team for more information – 416−388−1960
Laurin & Natalie Jeffrey are Toronto Realtors with Century 21 Regal Realty.
They did not write these articles, they just reproduce them here for people
who are interested in Toronto real estate. They do not work for any builders.
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