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You want that dream home? Why you’ll have to join the line in this thin housing market

Car­olyn Ire­land – The Globe and Mail

Toronto real estate agent Monte Bur­ris looked out the front win­dow of a Sun­ny­side Avenue house recently and saw a small crowd lined up on the side­walk. That was 45 min­utes before he was sched­uled to receive the hordes at the first open house as the prop­erty hit the mar­ket with an ask­ing price of $1.45-million.

One week later, the sell­ers had accepted an offer of $1.65-million.

Dur­ing the inter­ven­ing days, they had also repelled a hand­ful of bully offers and turned down the seven other bid­ders on offi­cial offer night.

It was obvi­ous early on that every­one wanted the prop­erty,” says Mr. Bur­ris of Keller Williams Real Estate Inc.

The red-brick detached house has six bed­rooms and five bath­rooms. Recently ren­o­vated, it has a gas fire­place in the foyer, a large kitchen, and an expanse of glass over­look­ing the deck and backyard.

When the first bul­lies launched their open­ing salvo, Mr. Bur­ris advised his clients to wait until the sched­uled night for review­ing offers. Bul­lies often step up with an eye-popping offer, but with the pro­viso that it’s only good for a short time. They gen­er­ally refuse to par­tic­i­pate in a bid­ding war.

But list­ings for detached houses are so thin that Mr. Bur­ris knew the prospec­tive buy­ers would likely come back to the table.

I was pretty con­fi­dent they would all show up on offer night. There’s still very lit­tle inven­tory on the market.”

This one sale is emblem­atic of the fickle Toronto mar­ket right now – or as agents like Mr. Bur­ris are say­ing more and more – the two Toronto markets.

Com­ment: True enough. I have a lit­tle semi in Hill­crest that peo­ple are lin­ing up to get into. Open house is today, I am afraid of the hordes that will come…

Con­dos are a com­pletely dif­fer­ent mar­ket,” says Mr. Burris.

That seg­ment is awash in “inven­tory” as agents say. Sell­ers are forced to cut their prices or wait a long time for a sale in some cases.

Com­ment: For some, not for all. Any­thing generic is sit­ting, as there are tons of sim­i­lar units avail­able. The larger or unique ones, with a view or in a bou­tique build­ing, they are still mov­ing nicely. The prob­lem is that there are more and more bor­ing lit­tle white boxes, the condo mar­ket is awash in sameness.

Detached houses will gen­er­ally attract mul­ti­ple offers if they are ren­o­vated and located in a prime neigh­bour­hood. Condo and loft units will attract mul­ti­ple offers in many cases if they are in a bou­tique build­ing or supremely well located. They need to stand out from the competition.

The num­bers show how unpre­dictable the mar­ket is now: sales in the Greater Toronto Area remained flat with a dip of about 1% in the first half of April com­pared with the same period last year. That’s not as grim as the double-digit drops recorded in pre­vi­ous months, but it’s not the spring bounce many agents were hop­ing for.

Com­ment: Sales jumped 16% from –17% to –1% and that is not a big bounce? Sure looks like a large increase to me.

Mean­while, the aver­age price rose 4.3% in the first two weeks of April from the same period last year. List­ings rose 16% in the first half of April com­pared with the first half of April, 2012.

Com­ment: After list­ings being down, sell­ers had held back when things looked bad. Less list­ings and fewer sales, now more list­ings and higher sales. Seems sim­ple enough. And bet­ter weather helps for sure. Spring 2012 saw 25 degrees in Feb­ru­ary for Pete’s sake, which really boosted sales. This year it was cold and crappy until almost the end of April. These things make a difference.

The num­bers were buoyed by sales of single-family homes in the sub­urbs, accord­ing to the Toronto Real Estate Board.

In the City of Toronto, sales of detached houses slipped 3.4% com­pared with the first half of April last year. Condo sales in Toronto declined 4.3% year over year for the same period.

Chan­der Chad­dah of Sut­ton Group-Associates Bro­ker­age Inc. spe­cial­izes in the Ron­ces­valles area. He says sales are def­i­nitely down and the mar­ket remains spotty.

He’s advis­ing his clients who want to buy to aim for a house that does not incite a frenzy.

I had to talk clients out of an offer last week.”

The house was listed with an ask­ing price of $849,000 and Mr. Chaddah’s clients thought they might be able to stretch to an offer of $875,000 or so. Mr. Chad­dah checked out the num­ber of bids on the offer date and told his clients not to get their hopes up. “We don’t have a chance,” he advised them.

The house sold for $1.020-million.

Mr. Chad­dah says many buy­ers seem to fall into the trap of bid­ding for a house as soon as they know that other peo­ple want it.

Com­ment: I can­not say that I have ever seen that. But I have seen them try to throw in a low bid “just in case” they get it. The prob­lem is, they won’t. And if there are 20 bids, at least 10 of them are hail mary bids hop­ing beyond hope that it goes for list price or less. It won’t. What that does, though, is push up the seri­ous bids. All you have to go on in a bid­ding war is the num­ber of bids. And gen­er­ally you see the sale price around $5–10,000 per bid over ask­ing. So 10 bids could push an $849,000 house to $900,000 but 20 will eas­ily send it to $1,020,000. The peo­ple who do not want the price to go too high are the very ones push­ing it up. Had they stayed out of it, the house would have sold for $100,000 less than it did. Now, the next house on the street is listed for $899,000 with bids and sells for $1,100,000 and so on… The peo­ple who were never in the run­ning for the house have now pushed the prices even higher. Exactly what they com­plain about. I try to explain this to peo­ple but they just get mad at me. They think it is their right to make an offer… “just in case”…

There’s no ques­tion that there’s this per­verse need for affirmation.”

He says house hunters who hear that sell­ers who find out that they won’t have to join a con­test – either because the sell­ers haven’t set an offer date or because no rivals have shown up – then start to ques­tion their own judgment.

The ques­tion starts to creep in, ‘what am I missing?’”

Lots of good houses are over­looked that way, he says, and he thinks buy­ers often end up pay­ing too much as a result.

I do more talk­ing peo­ple out of houses than I ever do talk­ing peo­ple into houses,” he says.

Usu­ally buy­ers know pretty quickly if a house feels right to them. If it does, he encour­ages them to be grate­ful if other buy­ers are pass­ing it buy.

Com­ment: Exactly. Your gut tells you it is the right place. If you don’t know it the moment you walk in, then it is not for you. You should never have to con­vince your­self or jus­tify it.

If we think it’s a good house, it’s a good house and we don’t need three other peo­ple to con­firm that. Then I’ll tell them, let’s see if we can go in and knock a cou­ple of bucks off the ask­ing price.”

Mr. Chad­dah is wish­ing that many more sell­ers will decide to list soon. Often peo­ple who are think­ing of putting a “for sale” sign on the lawn will wait for spring flow­ers and bud­ding trees.

More prod­uct,” says Mr. Chad­dah. “That’s what I hope happens.”

At the same time, he tells condo sell­ers that they have to be patient.

There’s a ton of prod­uct out there.”

A really slick condo town­house, or a high-rise unit with a really good view will some­times stir up com­pet­ing bid­ders, he says.

He worked with a buyer recently who bought a nicely ren­o­vated condo on Que­bec Avenue in High Park. The ask­ing price was $489,000 and the buyer beat out the other con­tenders with an offer of $511,000.

Even when it goes over list, it’s more mea­sured,” Mr. Chad­dah says of the action.

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Con­tact the Jef­frey Team for more infor­ma­tion – 416−388−1960

Lau­rin & Natalie Jef­frey are Toronto Real­tors with Cen­tury 21 Regal Realty.
They did not write these arti­cles, they just repro­duce them here for peo­ple
who are inter­ested in Toronto real estate. They do not work for any builders.

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In a tricky real estate market, there’s a right way to buy

Carolyn Ireland – The Globe and Mail

You never know what’s going to give you an edge in buying a coveted house.

For one buyer, it was his decision to paddle his cedar strip canoe along the shore of Lake Ontario on a chilly day.

Mark, who asked that his last name not be used, recently triumphed over 10 other bidders – including one bully who stepped up before the offer date – to buy a house on Lake Promenade on the Etobicoke waterfront.

During the days leading up to the offer night, Mark struck up a rapport with the owners of the house, who sat in the sun room overlooking the water, cordially greeting potential buyers who traipsed through their domain.

Mark, who rents a house a little farther along the shoreline in the same Long Branch neighbourhood, mentioned that he had been the first canoeist to brave the cold water in March. The owner recalled seeing him paddle by.

From there they discovered their mutual love of sailing.

On offer night, Mark made his first-ever offer on a house and beat out the competition with a bid slightly more than $900,000 for a house with an asking price of $799,000.

He’s not sure how much his camaraderie with the owner influenced the decision because, he acknowledges, he offered a healthy amount above the asking price. But he was surprised when he got a phone call late in the evening inviting him to come over to the house.

Comment: As usual, it was price. He may have been friendly with them, but he also offered $101,000 over asking… Money rules everyone, I hate to say.

“I was shocked when I got the call. They said, ‘can you come over?’ They showed up at the door with a glass of wine and shook my hand.”

For his part, Mark says, the geniality made the buying process much warmer. He had actually lost interest in looking for a house several months ago. He still had approval for a mortgage in place, but he had stepped to the sidelines.

But this purchase seemed meant to be. The house popped up on the market a week after his icy canoe ride.

An engineer by training, he admired the solid construction of the mid-century dwelling.

“I met with them. I recognized what the couple had built. There’s a bond that happens – you’re buying a home that somebody lived in their whole lives.”

It’s not large, but he doesn’t need a sprawling place.

“I don’t even use my living room. The living room is a storage closet for all of my sails.”

He felt confident making an offer without a home inspection and he doesn’t plan to tear the house down or make any major changes. And he loved the fact that the owners carried on with their lives during showings instead of having it professionally staged and moving out for a week.

“The number of times I’ve see a house and the owner was there – it rarely happens.”

Mark also had some help from his real estate agent, who was willing to reduce his commission in order to help Mark top up his bid.

He says he wasn’t put off by the fact that there was competition for the house. That has been the trend on the street for the past couple of years while he has been observing the market. He knew the asking price was artificially low and he figured he had a good handle on the true value.

Comment: Thank you smart buyer! Most think the asking price is what the property is worth. No. It is worth what someone will pay for it. And so many times the price is set artificially low to encourage more bids. In the end, this house was worth $900,000 – the amount someone paid for it.

“If you know what it’s worth, you can’t be scared because there are other offers.”

Still, sometimes he can’t believe he was the victor.

“I was in shock for a few days.”

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Contact the Jeffrey Team for more information – 416-388-1960

Laurin & Natalie Jeffrey are Toronto Realtors with Century 21 Regal Realty.
They did not write these articles, they just reproduce them here for people
who are interested in Toronto real estate. They do not work for any builders.

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How to find the home you never thought you wanted

Carolyn Ireland – The Globe and Mail

Toronto’s spring real estate market is full of quirks and happenstance.

Last week I wrote about Arie and Sabina Diamant, who were contemplating making an offer on a fixer-upper with a sloping basement floor in the pocket south of the Eglinton West subway station. The couple decided to pass on the house on Belvedere Avenue, but there’s a twist to the story – Ms. Diamant’s sister immediately bought it. Jody Segal and her husband have been renting in the neighbourhood during their one-and-a-half-year search for a place to buy.

They had looked at the semi-detached brick house earlier but they didn’t see the potential, says Ms. Segal. Like so many house hunters they had trouble envisioning a chic, modern house emerging from decades’ worth of clutter and oppressive window treatments.

But the couple was discouraged after another house they liked in the area sold in a bidding war for a price way beyond what they could afford. They had started to look in Thornhill and other areas farther from the core.

But when Ms. Segal heard from her sister Sabina that the house could be rejuvenated with a renovation, she reconsidered. She talked to Sabina’s agent, who saw the house as a solid property that offered lots of room for improvement – and therefore enhanced value.

That’s when Ms. Segal and her husband decided that the house might work for them and their two young children. It has a large lot and three bedrooms. And it wasn’t drawing much attention.

“It was cold,” says Ms. Segal. “It had been listed for a while.”

So they made an offer conditional on inspection and bargained the owner down from the $499,000 asking price.

During the five days they had to carry out an inspection, Ms. Segal says, another semi came up for sale on the same street. It had an asking price of $689,000 and offered only two bedrooms but it was renovated top-to-bottom and “showed” extremely well.

“People were flocking to it,” says Ms. Segal, who was walking contractors through the house she had purchased. While she was there, people who had been drawn to the house up the street and saw the “for sale” sign on hers were knocking on the door.

She figures those potential buyers weren’t even considering houses under $500,000 and therefore it wasn’t on their radar screens until they visited the street to see the more expensive house.

All of a sudden, the house they had purchased conditionally was getting fresh attention. Ms. Segal figures if she had waited just a few more days, they would have missed out.

Comment: And they might have been able to flip it days after buying it for a tidy profit!

“If we don’t take this now, we’ll never be able to stay in this neighbourhood,” Ms. Segal told her husband. Meanwhile, the builders and inspectors she talked to reassured her that the house is solid.

Now she and her husband are looking forward with great excitement to taking possession and getting the reno under way. They won’t attempt to live in the house while the work is going on.

“I’ve heard that marriages end that way,” she says.

Meanwhile, a savvy professional woman I know was tempted this week by a renovated two-bedroom house in New Toronto just a few doors up from Lake Ontario. She contemplated putting an offer on the table, but backed away when she heard that four offers had already been registered with one hour to go before the deadline.

The house had an asking price of $639,000 but she figures that a selling price above $700,000 would leave no room for increasing the value.

Comment: Again, what is with people and “increasing the value” of houses? If it is already reno’d, there is little to do. Either way, you pay $400k for a project and spend $200k to end up with a house worth $600k – or bid $600k on a house priced at $539k that is already reno’d. Just a matter of the time and effort you have to spend. Neither one is a better deal, both end up the same. Just a different journey to get there.

Besides, spring market competition is too nerve-racking, she adds, and she’s going to stay in her current house for a while longer.

Agents say there have been very few detached houses for sale in the west-end neighbourhoods along the lake this spring so any properties that do come on the market are immediately swarmed.

Still, they add, sales remain fickle and they’re sometimes at a loss to understand why some houses attract multiple offers and others none at all.

Micro-hoods: Where to find affordable homes in Toronto – Long Branch

For many years, Long Branch on the edge of Lake Ontario was a gritty neighbourhood bordered by industry.

The stores and restaurants on Lake Shore Boulevard West stubbornly resisted any hints of trendiness.

And, even as Mimico and New Toronto to the east were becoming more gentrified, Long Branch real estate lagged in value.

But long-time residents prefer the wider lots and quieter, less buzzy streets in Long Branch.

Partly the area was held back in the past by the odd housing mix: Lots of small apartment buildings and fourplexes stand side-by-side with the bungalows and two-storey brick houses on the curving, tree-lined streets.

But more recently, builders have been razing the smaller houses and building large, new dwellings.

The shift in housing stock is lifting the value of the entire neighbourhood.

As a sure sign the area is on the rise, the earnest barristas have arrived.

Fair Grounds is a bustling café roasting its own organic, fair-trade beans.

A few doors down, an outpost of the Burrito Boyz has opened near Brown’s Line.

For homeowners who want a boost from rental income, the area offers the opportunity to take in Humber College students attending the Lakeshore Campus.

Meanwhile, developers are launching new condominium projects close to the Long Branch GO Train station.

For now, the slower street car rumbles along Lake Shore Boulevard, but politicians and the Toronto Transit Commission have talked about building a Waterfront West LRT from Union Station to Long Branch.

As more people move into the area, new businesses and services are sure to follow.

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Contact the Jeffrey Team for more information – 416-388-1960

Laurin & Natalie Jeffrey are Toronto Realtors with Century 21 Regal Realty.
They did not write these articles, they just reproduce them here for people
who are interested in Toronto real estate. They do not work for any builders.

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