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You want that dream home? Why you’ll have to join the line in this thin housing market

Car­olyn Ire­land – The Globe and Mail

Toronto real estate agent Monte Bur­ris looked out the front win­dow of a Sun­ny­side Avenue house recently and saw a small crowd lined up on the side­walk. That was 45 min­utes before he was sched­uled to receive the hordes at the first open house as the prop­erty hit the mar­ket with an ask­ing price of $1.45-million.

One week later, the sell­ers had accepted an offer of $1.65-million.

Dur­ing the inter­ven­ing days, they had also repelled a hand­ful of bully offers and turned down the seven other bid­ders on offi­cial offer night.

It was obvi­ous early on that every­one wanted the prop­erty,” says Mr. Bur­ris of Keller Williams Real Estate Inc.

The red-brick detached house has six bed­rooms and five bath­rooms. Recently ren­o­vated, it has a gas fire­place in the foyer, a large kitchen, and an expanse of glass over­look­ing the deck and backyard.

When the first bul­lies launched their open­ing salvo, Mr. Bur­ris advised his clients to wait until the sched­uled night for review­ing offers. Bul­lies often step up with an eye-popping offer, but with the pro­viso that it’s only good for a short time. They gen­er­ally refuse to par­tic­i­pate in a bid­ding war.

But list­ings for detached houses are so thin that Mr. Bur­ris knew the prospec­tive buy­ers would likely come back to the table.

I was pretty con­fi­dent they would all show up on offer night. There’s still very lit­tle inven­tory on the market.”

This one sale is emblem­atic of the fickle Toronto mar­ket right now – or as agents like Mr. Bur­ris are say­ing more and more – the two Toronto markets.

Com­ment: True enough. I have a lit­tle semi in Hill­crest that peo­ple are lin­ing up to get into. Open house is today, I am afraid of the hordes that will come…

Con­dos are a com­pletely dif­fer­ent mar­ket,” says Mr. Burris.

That seg­ment is awash in “inven­tory” as agents say. Sell­ers are forced to cut their prices or wait a long time for a sale in some cases.

Com­ment: For some, not for all. Any­thing generic is sit­ting, as there are tons of sim­i­lar units avail­able. The larger or unique ones, with a view or in a bou­tique build­ing, they are still mov­ing nicely. The prob­lem is that there are more and more bor­ing lit­tle white boxes, the condo mar­ket is awash in sameness.

Detached houses will gen­er­ally attract mul­ti­ple offers if they are ren­o­vated and located in a prime neigh­bour­hood. Condo and loft units will attract mul­ti­ple offers in many cases if they are in a bou­tique build­ing or supremely well located. They need to stand out from the competition.

The num­bers show how unpre­dictable the mar­ket is now: sales in the Greater Toronto Area remained flat with a dip of about 1% in the first half of April com­pared with the same period last year. That’s not as grim as the double-digit drops recorded in pre­vi­ous months, but it’s not the spring bounce many agents were hop­ing for.

Com­ment: Sales jumped 16% from –17% to –1% and that is not a big bounce? Sure looks like a large increase to me.

Mean­while, the aver­age price rose 4.3% in the first two weeks of April from the same period last year. List­ings rose 16% in the first half of April com­pared with the first half of April, 2012.

Com­ment: After list­ings being down, sell­ers had held back when things looked bad. Less list­ings and fewer sales, now more list­ings and higher sales. Seems sim­ple enough. And bet­ter weather helps for sure. Spring 2012 saw 25 degrees in Feb­ru­ary for Pete’s sake, which really boosted sales. This year it was cold and crappy until almost the end of April. These things make a difference.

The num­bers were buoyed by sales of single-family homes in the sub­urbs, accord­ing to the Toronto Real Estate Board.

In the City of Toronto, sales of detached houses slipped 3.4% com­pared with the first half of April last year. Condo sales in Toronto declined 4.3% year over year for the same period.

Chan­der Chad­dah of Sut­ton Group-Associates Bro­ker­age Inc. spe­cial­izes in the Ron­ces­valles area. He says sales are def­i­nitely down and the mar­ket remains spotty.

He’s advis­ing his clients who want to buy to aim for a house that does not incite a frenzy.

I had to talk clients out of an offer last week.”

The house was listed with an ask­ing price of $849,000 and Mr. Chaddah’s clients thought they might be able to stretch to an offer of $875,000 or so. Mr. Chad­dah checked out the num­ber of bids on the offer date and told his clients not to get their hopes up. “We don’t have a chance,” he advised them.

The house sold for $1.020-million.

Mr. Chad­dah says many buy­ers seem to fall into the trap of bid­ding for a house as soon as they know that other peo­ple want it.

Com­ment: I can­not say that I have ever seen that. But I have seen them try to throw in a low bid “just in case” they get it. The prob­lem is, they won’t. And if there are 20 bids, at least 10 of them are hail mary bids hop­ing beyond hope that it goes for list price or less. It won’t. What that does, though, is push up the seri­ous bids. All you have to go on in a bid­ding war is the num­ber of bids. And gen­er­ally you see the sale price around $5–10,000 per bid over ask­ing. So 10 bids could push an $849,000 house to $900,000 but 20 will eas­ily send it to $1,020,000. The peo­ple who do not want the price to go too high are the very ones push­ing it up. Had they stayed out of it, the house would have sold for $100,000 less than it did. Now, the next house on the street is listed for $899,000 with bids and sells for $1,100,000 and so on… The peo­ple who were never in the run­ning for the house have now pushed the prices even higher. Exactly what they com­plain about. I try to explain this to peo­ple but they just get mad at me. They think it is their right to make an offer… “just in case”…

There’s no ques­tion that there’s this per­verse need for affirmation.”

He says house hunters who hear that sell­ers who find out that they won’t have to join a con­test – either because the sell­ers haven’t set an offer date or because no rivals have shown up – then start to ques­tion their own judgment.

The ques­tion starts to creep in, ‘what am I missing?’”

Lots of good houses are over­looked that way, he says, and he thinks buy­ers often end up pay­ing too much as a result.

I do more talk­ing peo­ple out of houses than I ever do talk­ing peo­ple into houses,” he says.

Usu­ally buy­ers know pretty quickly if a house feels right to them. If it does, he encour­ages them to be grate­ful if other buy­ers are pass­ing it buy.

Com­ment: Exactly. Your gut tells you it is the right place. If you don’t know it the moment you walk in, then it is not for you. You should never have to con­vince your­self or jus­tify it.

If we think it’s a good house, it’s a good house and we don’t need three other peo­ple to con­firm that. Then I’ll tell them, let’s see if we can go in and knock a cou­ple of bucks off the ask­ing price.”

Mr. Chad­dah is wish­ing that many more sell­ers will decide to list soon. Often peo­ple who are think­ing of putting a “for sale” sign on the lawn will wait for spring flow­ers and bud­ding trees.

More prod­uct,” says Mr. Chad­dah. “That’s what I hope happens.”

At the same time, he tells condo sell­ers that they have to be patient.

There’s a ton of prod­uct out there.”

A really slick condo town­house, or a high-rise unit with a really good view will some­times stir up com­pet­ing bid­ders, he says.

He worked with a buyer recently who bought a nicely ren­o­vated condo on Que­bec Avenue in High Park. The ask­ing price was $489,000 and the buyer beat out the other con­tenders with an offer of $511,000.

Even when it goes over list, it’s more mea­sured,” Mr. Chad­dah says of the action.

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Lau­rin & Natalie Jef­frey are Toronto Real­tors with Cen­tury 21 Regal Realty.
They did not write these arti­cles, they just repro­duce them here for peo­ple
who are inter­ested in Toronto real estate. They do not work for any builders.

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Toronto condo parking spaces can fetch $60K

The resale market for parking spots and condos is steady with some ranging in price up to $60,000. Still, there are a few wrinkles in selling a spot.

Ian Harvey – Toronto Star

With parking a hot commodity for downtown residents who drive, condo owners are taking advantage of the demand and selling their parking spaces.

A spot that was purchased for $18,000 about 15 years ago, for example, was recently sold by its owner for $38,000.

Still, that was a bargain compared to prices that begin at $55,000 — and generate bidding wars — for parking spots in newly built downtown condominiums. Most buildings have fewer parking spaces than condo suites, and many have no visitor parking at all.

Yet even at $40,000 to $60,000, Toronto condo dwellers are still in a sweet spot. In cities such as London, England and New York, parking spots for multi-million-dollar condo units can run up to a cool one million dollars.

In Singapore, one luxury builder has installed a parking elevator to bring owners’ cars to their units where they are off-loaded into a special ensuite parking bay. A home with a two-bay parking garage is $7.7 million.

In Toronto, the resale market for parking spots and condos remains steady with MLS for early March showing some 23 parking spots ranging up to $60,000 and also three lockers for sale with prices from $4,000 to $6,000.

Still, there are a few wrinkles in selling a spot or a locker.

First, read your condominium declaration, says Lorne Shapiro of Basman Smith LLP , a real estate lawyer who works with developers.

“It’s the bible and it will spell out what you can and cannot do,” he said.

Comment: It all depends on whether or not the spot is owned or exclusive use. If you have a deed for the parking spot, you can sell it. If it is a common element that you have exclusive use of, too bad, it stays with the unit and cannot be sold. Same with a locker.

While some older condo corporations may not have anticipated sales of parking spots and storage lockers, most declarations allow sale only to another owner in the building, Shapiro said. And there are reasons why: mainly security.

Assuming it’s permitted, selling a parking spot or locker is the same as selling title to your condo, he said.

“The residential unit, parking spot and locker are all titled and numbered separately so there are no issues with title,” he said. “And you have to pay the maintenance fees on them.”

You also might want to read over your mortgage documents if you’re thinking about “flipping” a parking spot or locker soon after purchase, warns Robert Wong, a real estate broker with Keller Williams Realty . In fact, it’s a good idea to check with your mortgage period.

“If you’ve got a mortgage then the locker or parking spot will likely be included in the value of you condominium,” he said. “If you sell the parking spot or locker, you have changed the value of the property and there could be a problem.”

With more downtown condos going up with fewer parking spots — the 42-storey project at the old Royal Canadian Military Institute on University Ave. near Dundas St., will have none at all — the price for those suites that do have spots, and the resale market for parking spaces, are both escalating.

Politics has also raised its head in the condo parking issue.

The city of Toronto usually demands .67 to .75 parking spaces per unit for most condos and up to 1.1 in some outlying areas but will waive that ratio depending on location.

Homeowners in the Woodbine Ave. and Queen St. E. area in the Beach were recently incensed when they learned a 70-unit condo planned for the neighbourhood would have only 65 spaces — actually more than the requirement. The residents fear an overflow of cars will flood their streets and force those homeowners with street parking further from their regular spots.

Of course, getting a parking spot with a condo all depends on location, location, location. Buyers in the suburbs usually expect parking included the deal, along with a locker, because transit isn’t always close, fast or convenient depending on where they work.

Singles, young couples and empty nesters who buy within the city’s core for the lifestyle, however, aren’t usually interested in parking spots said Jim Ritchie, Tridel’s senior vice president of sales and marketing. Those residents don’t rely on cars and instead use streetcars, subways, bicycles and even shared rides such as ZipCar or AutoShare when they need wheels, he said.

“A car is more important as you move away from the core,” said Ritchie, explaining the demand curve for parking.

“Cars are expensive,” said Debbie Cosic, of In2ition Realty who specializes in marketing and selling new home developments. “Parking spots can add $50,000 to the cost of buying a condo, that’s another $240 a month in mortgage payments. Then’s there $300 a month for the car, $100 a month at least for insurance, gas. That’s nearly $1,000 a month for something you don’t need every day.”

Developers are increasingly reluctant to offer parking, she said. Because the cost of land continues to climb, they have to go higher to create enough units to pay back their investment costs.

This, in turn, means developments with small footprints must go deeper to create multi-level parking floors.

“You’d think the cost would go down as they went down but it’s the opposite, the costs increase the deeper you go to build more parking levels,” Cosic said, adding the extras can also be bargaining chips to make or break a sale.

“In the 905 and outside, if they’re having trouble selling they throw in parking spots and lockers to drive sales.”

Wong agrees.

“It does depend on where you want to buy,” he said. “Typically now, the new condos downtown are selling parking spots and lockers separately. But if you go out a bit, say Parklawn Rd. and Lake Shore Blvd., they might offer to throw one in.”

Even lockers are add-ins to a deal, Wong said, and can be sold off — more likely so because some of the lockers in new buildings are cramped and there is not always a ratio of one locker for each unit.

The mix of units in a development will also dictate parking, Cosic said, noting those buying a two-bedroom unit and planning a family will likely end up getting car. They may anticipate that when they buy, even if they don’t initially need parking. Meanwhile, buyers of small, entry-level units downtown won’t make parking a priority.

Lockers, too, are becoming premium items as condo spaces get tighter, she said. Most start at around $2,500 and go to $7,500, depending on size and location. Lockers in luxury buildings can hit $10,000.

“There are some lockers we’ve put in a project on the same floor — like a pantry — which are really cool,” Cosic said.

“They’re in the nooks and crannies left after the mechanicals, like the plumbing and electrical, are run. Others are part of the parking space which people like, as well.”

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Contact the Jeffrey Team for more information – 416-388-1960

Laurin & Natalie Jeffrey are Toronto Realtors with Century 21 Regal Realty.
They did not write these articles, they just reproduce them here for people
who are interested in Toronto real estate. They do not work for any builders.

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Toronto real estate: Downtown condos lead broad rise in prices

Susan Pigg – Toronto Star

Sales of homes across the GTA slipped by 2.1% in April, but prices were up 2%, as the usu­ally hot spring mar­ket suf­fered through another wet, cold month.

Sur­pris­ingly, down­town con­dos saw the biggest spike in prices — up 5.6% to an aver­age of $379,266 — and a decline in sales of just 1.3% over last April, accord­ing to sta­tis­tics released Fri­day by the Toronto Real Estate Board.

Sub­ur­ban condo sales were the flip side of the coin, how­ever, in a mar­ket that con­tin­ues to glide to a soft land­ing rather than the dev­as­tat­ing crash many eco­nom­ics and hous­ing experts had pre­dicted just last fall.

Com­ment: I guess it goes to show that the econ­o­mists were sim­ply wrong. Hous­ing experts did not pre­dict a crash, only the econ­o­mists. Those in the real estate indus­try pre­dicted a slower INCREASE in sales and prices. As I keep say­ing, why does any­one believe or trust the econ­o­mists any­more, they have been wrong for 10+ years now.

Resale condo prices were down almost 6% across the 905 regions, to an aver­age of $273,832. Sales of sub­ur­ban con­dos took the biggest hit of any hous­ing sec­tor across the GTA in April — next to sales of detached homes in the 416 region — drop­ping 7.3% in April.

The con­do­minium apart­ment seg­ment in the City of Toronto was a key dri­ver of price growth in April,” which sug­gests that first-time buy­ers are out house hunt­ing again, almost a year after Ottawa moved to tighten mort­gage lend­ing rules, said TREB pres­i­dent Ann Han­nah in a statement.

Com­ment: That and condo list­ings rose while new projects stalled. Easy to see what pushed resale condo sales up.

Econ­o­mist Will Dun­ning points out, how­ever, that this April had 22 week­days — when sales tend to be recorded by TREB — com­pared to 20 in 2012. When sales fig­ures are adjusted for sea­sonal fluc­tu­a­tions, the sales down­turn of 2% reported by TREB is prob­a­bly closer to 14%, he noted.

Com­ment: For­get the stu­pid extra day / fewer days BS, that is stu­pid. Not until this year did we split hairs that fine. April is April, can we please just leave it like that. And that is just try­ing to make a good news num­ber look bad by con­duct­ing some voodoo math on it. I am sure I could pick a bunch of other months over the past year or two and do the same false adjust­ing and arrive at num­bers that look bet­ter than they should. But how do 10% extra days turn into 700% worse sales? That is some really inter­est­ing math!

Most inter­est­ing about the condo num­bers, said Dun­ning, is that the total num­ber of units for sale in the 416 region was up 8%, help­ing keep the mar­ket sta­ble, while there was a 16% jump in the 905 regions, now a buyer’s market.

Com­ment: Amaz­ing, list­ings were up 8% and sales rose 5.6% – not that there is a con­nec­tion there or anything…

There’s still not a lot of urgency in the mar­ket­place,” said down­town real­tor Andrew la Fleur, who focuses largely on the down­town condo mar­ket. “There’s still a lot of wait-and-see mindset.”

Com­ment: And sell­ers are not blinking.

Detached homes took the biggest hit in April. Sales in the City of Toronto plum­meted almost 12% over last April, although prices were up 2.5% to an aver­age of $852,090, accord­ing to TREB’s fig­ures. That may reflect, at least in part, the lack of enough detached homes on the mar­ket to meet demand, which has been an ongo­ing issue, espe­cially in Toronto, for three or four years and has con­tributed to bid­ding wars — and esca­lat­ing prices even in a soft­en­ing mar­ket — in cov­eted neigh­bour­hoods close to down­town jobs and tran­sit lines.

Sales of detached homes in the 905 were up 2.5% year over year, and prices were up 2.2% to an aver­age of $588,784, accord­ing to TREB.

Semi-detached homes in the 416 region saw a 5.5% sales down­turn in April, year over year, but prices were up 2.4% to an aver­age of $595,398. In the sub­urbs, the sale of semis were up 1.3% and prices up 4.3%, to an aver­age sale price of $410,739.

Town­house sales declined 3.6% in the city, but the aver­age sales price was $433,710, up 2.3% over last April. In the 905 region, town­house trans­ac­tions declined by 1.2%, although prices were up 3.5%, to an aver­age sales price of $375,269.

Despite an unre­lent­ing win­ter that lin­gered through most of April, damp­en­ing the enthu­si­asm of both buy­ers and sell­ers, some of whom were hold­ing out for their pricey land­scap­ing to be in bloom, new list­ings were up almost 11% year over year.

Com­ment: I bet we see a pos­tive May, finally some nice weather!

The time it takes to sell a house climbed slightly, to 23 days com­pared to 21 days in April of 2012. Con­dos, on the other hand, are aver­ag­ing 32 days on the market.

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Lau­rin & Natalie Jef­frey are Toronto Real­tors with Cen­tury 21 Regal Realty.
They did not write these arti­cles, they just repro­duce them here for peo­ple
who are inter­ested in Toronto real estate. They do not work for any builders.

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