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Condo plan for major downtown Toronto site may include a park

Tara Perkins – The Globe and Mail

A developer that has just beat out a number of rivals to buy a much-coveted piece of land on Wellesley Street West near Yonge Street is now in talks with the city about scaling down its condominium plans to make room for a park.

As a result, Toronto Councillor Kristyn Wong-Tam is now confident her long-held desire to see this particular parcel of land become home to some sort of green space, something local residents have also pushed hard for, will be realized.

The turn of events comes after Ms. Wong-Tam fought a losing battle last year to persuade Infrastructure Ontario to let the city lease the land and build a park, potentially with an underground parking lot to raise revenues for both governments. Infrastructure Ontario was selling the two-acre-plus site in order to raise money for the province.

“We would have loved to have been able to purchase it from the province, but the province invited the city to bid on the land in competition with developers,” Ms. Wong-Tam said in an interview. “And we were not successful at being creative and creating a new working relationship with the province because they wanted maximum dollar, and there’s just no way the City of Toronto could compete with deep-pocket developers.”

After two rounds of bidding, the site went to Lanterra Developments, whose CEO Barry Fenton says the company paid $65-million, more than original estimates of what the site would go for. Mr. Fenton said that when the company acquired the nearby Sutton Place Hotel on Bay Street, which it is now turning into The Britt Condos, it paid $58-million. “But it came with a building in place and a lot of infrastructure. This site is barren,” he said in an interview. “It’s a lot of money to spend for 2-1/4 acres of land.”

He added that his understanding is that the province received numerous offers from condo developers, office developers, pension funds and other real estate players.

Now Lanterra is planning to submit an application to the city this week to obtain about 950,000 square feet, enough space for two condo towers. But Mr. Fenton and Ms. Wong-Tam are in talks about doing something different on the site.

“We are in fluid discussions with the city councillor, and the game plan is to see if we can work something out over the next few months that provides more of a park concept with one tower, and that’s something that we would look to do,” Mr. Fenton said.

Ms. Wong-Tam suggested she’s optimistic.

“The province was suggesting to developers that they can develop the site by putting in two to three condominium or office towers,” she said. “Lanterra has been put on notice, and I did tell them that I would expect to see a park as soon as possible.”

The land was once supposed to become home to a ballet and opera house, but governments withdrew the funding for that project in the recession of the early 1990s.

Ms. Wong-Tam said the neighbourhood is one of the most dense parts of the city and there are few remaining opportunities to create park space. “As we lose all the infill sites, opportunities to create new community amenities and new community spaces are lost forever,” she said.

“I believe the end result will be a win-win,” Mr. Fenton said. He expects condos won’t be completed on the site for five or six years, with marketing likely to begin more than a year from now after the zoning application is approved.

He remains a believer in the strength of Toronto’s condo market, despite falling sales across the city and the warnings of economists who suggest the market is overvalued. “I’m spending a lot of money on something when people are telling us every day it’s doom and gloom,” he said.

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Laurin & Natalie Jeffrey are Toronto Realtors with Century 21 Regal Realty.
They did not write these articles, they just reproduce them here for people
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The buyer/seller standoff in Toronto real estate is over

Car­olyn Ire­land – The Globe and Mail

The forces guid­ing real estate are always local, but in the choppy Toronto mar­ket of 2013, the talk has turned to “hyper-local” strategies.

The var­i­ous lay­ers and pock­ets of the mar­ket are behav­ing so dif­fer­ently that buy­ers and sell­ers need to shift quickly – even as the Big Bank econ­o­mists see the over­all mar­ket waft­ing to a soft land­ing. Nation­ally, real estate prices have declined for five con­sec­u­tive months, the Teranet-National Bank house price index shows.

Van­cou­ver has had the great­est pull but Toronto is also one of the mar­kets drag­ging down the over­all index.

Com­ment: With Toronto prices ris­ing around 4% annu­ally, month over month, how can Toronto be drag­ging prices down?

But if you’re a seller in Toronto, the mar­ket looks very dif­fer­ent depend­ing on whether you’re sell­ing a gleam­ing condo suite for $899,000 or a slightly tired bun­ga­low for $549,000.

To Ricky Chadha, a real estate agent with Royal Lep­age Estate Realty, hyper-local in the condo mar­ket means he takes an inven­tory of what’s for sale down the hall – or in the build­ing next door. He doesn’t need to look far­ther. If plenty of units are up for sale in the same con­do­minium build­ing, he may advise the seller to wait a week or two to see if there’s less com­pe­ti­tion. But he doesn’t rec­om­mend that they wait any longer because try­ing to pre­dict the direc­tion of the mar­ket is too challenging.

Com­ment: Yet peo­ple who do not even work in real estate are happy to make those pre­dic­tions all the time.

I always tell peo­ple to move when it’s the right time for them to move – not to try to play the mar­ket,” Mr. Chadha said.

He says bid­ding wars are com­mon for houses in that cov­eted $500,000 to $600,000 range that attracts move-up and first-time buy­ers. Buy­ers are will­ing to com­pete for houses in that range if they are close to tran­sit, rea­son­ably move-in ready and in an appeal­ing neigh­bour­hood, Mr. Chadha said.

He con­trasts that with the spring of 2012 when buy­ers were scrap­ping even over run­down prop­er­ties near the train tracks.

Last year almost every­thing was going in mul­ti­ples because peo­ple were just so frus­trated at los­ing on so many bids.”

Unless they have a prime prop­erty, Mr. Chadha is not advis­ing sell­ers to hold off on look­ing at offers.

That’s a risky game to play these days.”

He recently sold a house in Pick­er­ing with­out an offer date because that’s an area where buy­ers have more to choose from than they do down­town. So he was pleas­antly sur­prised when two buy­ers tabled bids a cou­ple of days after the house arrived on the mar­ket with an ask­ing price of $409,900. It sold for $417,000.

We made short work of it. It was sold in two days, firm.”

Mr. Chadha said con­dos have been sell­ing more quickly recently in the seg­ment below $400,000 but have remained slug­gish at the higher end – espe­cially those con­sid­ered lux­ury units. The buy­ers are still look­ing, he said, but they often have more time to make a deci­sion because they’re less likely to have their tim­ing dic­tated by the school cal­en­dar and fac­tors like that.

I think the condo buy­ers are seek­ing out more deals.”

Com­ment: Buy­ers have been look­ing for deals since 2006 – and not find­ing them. I had a client wait, she was sure the prices would come down. Even­tu­ally, prices rose enough that she could not buy any of the con­dos we orig­i­nally looked at. There are no deals, prices are not going to drop 25%. Even if 2013 sees a net drop, it will be 5% or less. Back to where we were in 2011.

Christo­pher Bibby, an agent with Sut­ton Group-Associates Realty Inc., said he had a flurry of condo deals in Jan­u­ary after a very slow fall mar­ket. Of seven condo list­ings he sold in Jan­u­ary, five of those were holdovers from 2012, he said.

He sold, for exam­ple, a sin­gu­lar unit in the But­ton Fac­tory Lofts that had been listed since last Sep­tem­ber with an ask­ing price of $1.495-million. The prop­erty sat through the fall but in Jan­u­ary show­ings sud­denly picked up and the seller signed off on a deal at slightly less than the ask­ing price.

Com­ment: But million-and-a-half lofts do not sell fast in gen­eral, we all know that.

Through the last quar­ter of 2012, buy­ers seemed timid and sell­ers were stub­born, says Mr. Bibby.

He believes that both groups have fresh mind­sets for 2013: The stand-off has given way to a more active mar­ket where buy­ers are will­ing to step up with offers and sell­ers are will­ing to nego­ti­ate. He esti­mates that prices have come down between five and 10% from the fall but adds that they seem sta­ble at the moment.

Com­ment: As I have explained ad nau­seum, prices peak first in the spring, then again in the fall. December-January is a low point, as is August. Com­par­ing yearly high points to low points proves nothing.

The sell­ers’ expec­ta­tions are a lot more rea­son­able. Nego­ti­a­tions are tak­ing a lot longer,” he says. “But It’s healthy. It’s fine. I’m sup­port­ive of the process.”

As for where the mar­ket goes from here – espe­cially for con­dos – Mr. Bibby says it’s going to be inter­est­ing to see what hap­pens. The car­pen­ters and plumbers are fin­ish­ing up new units every day.

A lot of really good inven­tory is going to come onto the mar­ket,” said Mr. Bibby of some of the new mar­quee addresses. But he acknowl­edges that the increase in sup­ply could pro­vide buy­ers with a lot to choose from. Still, he thinks plenty of buy­ers will be attracted to the gleam­ing new kitchens and bathrooms.

At Cap­i­tal Eco­nom­ics, econ­o­mist David Madani is stand­ing by his view that real estate prices in Canada will decline by 25% over the long term.

Com­ment: If he keeps say­ing it, one day it might hap­pen. I believe he made that pre­dic­tion in 2011 first, and prices have only risen almost 10% since then. So now prices actu­ally need to fall 35% to make him right. Which is even less likely to hap­pen than it was the first time. It was a stu­pid pre­dic­tion, made only to get his name in print. Which worked. Funny thing is, no one is call­ing him on it. No one is point out that he was – and is – WRONG.

The declines so far will prob­a­bly con­tinue this year, he said, even with­out an obvi­ous trig­ger for a cor­rec­tion. He said those insist­ing a trig­ger is nec­es­sary need look no fur­ther than the Van­cou­ver mar­ket where prices have already fallen by more than 5% from a year ago even as inter­est rates have remained unusu­ally low and the job­less rate has not increased.

Com­ment: Declines? What declines? Van­cou­ver has been drop­ping for years now, shed­ding about 35% since their high point. Why look at it if you live in Toronto? Why not look at Hal­i­fax or Cal­gary where prices have risen over that same time? They have no bear­ing on the Toronto real estate mar­ket, none of them.

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Lau­rin & Natalie Jef­frey are Toronto Real­tors with Cen­tury 21 Regal Realty.
They did not write these arti­cles, they just repro­duce them here for peo­ple
who are inter­ested in Toronto real estate. They do not work for any builders.

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  • New in Toronto real estate: The College Condominium

    Posted by Robyn Urback – blogTO

    The College Condominium will surely be a magnet for students (ahem…that is, their investor parents) and potentially a source of NIMBYism due to its 15-storey façade. Don’t get me wrong – 15 storeys is not a mega-structure by any means, but it certainly will make a statement on an otherwise modest stretch of College Street west of Spadina. A Tribute Communities development, this condo will have a couple hundred units with various sizes and layouts, and several parking spaces underground that will cost the equivalent of a brand new luxury sedan. Here is a closer look at The College Condominium.

    SPECS

    Address: 297 College Street
    Floors: 15
    Total number of units: 234
    Types of units: One bedroom, one-plus-den, two bedroom, two-plus-den, three bedroom
    Unit sizes (in square feet): 477-1026
    Ceiling heights: Up to 9′
    Prices from: $326,990
    Parking: $55,000 (For select suites)
    Maintenance fees: $0.57 (+ hydro, gas, water)
    Developer: Tribute Communities
    Architect: Core Architects
    Interior Design: Bryon Patton & Associates
    Amenities: Fitness room, party room, theatre, billiards room, 24-hour concierge
    Expected occupancy: Summer 2016

    THE GOOD

    Have developers suddenly grown tired of Richmond and Adelaide, or has that area finally reached condo saturation? Either way, The College Condominium wins a point right from the get-go for not being in the way of obnoxious Friday night limo traffic. Granted, living right on College will come with a few drawbacks (noise, congestion, dumb Frosh activities, etc.), but the boons of this location will definitely outweigh the bad. First off, your brunch options from this spot will be superior, extensive, and disproportionately delicious, with so many great options within five minutes or less (yes, Bella, I’m thinking of you). You’ll be minutes from Kensington Market shopping, seconds from Chinatown late night eats, and just steps away from the University of Toronto campus.

    Which leads me to my next point. I’m quite confident that most of us have “that friend” who comes up with the “brilliant idea” to buy a condo and rent it out. “Easy as pie,” he’ll claim. “The rent will cover the mortgage, and I’ll sell it in a couple of years and bathe in the profits.” Savants, they are. But sometimes the rent doesn’t cover the mortgage, and appliances need repair, and tenants don’t necessarily climb over each other to snag a studio in CityPlace. But I suspect the situation might be (lucratively?) different for owners of a suite at College Condominiums.

    Proximity to U of T makes the building incredibly desirable to students – especially international students – with the demand for close-to-campus accommodation an enduring, endearing characteristic of the community. So, while Liberty Village, say, might be a “hot” neighbourhood today (debatable, but never mind), housing by U of T will always be in demand. In that way, a purchase at The College Condos seems a much safer bet.

    And the units themselves? Well, that depends on the suite. There’s a terrible L-shaped 661-square-foot one-plus-den with wasted space and a windowless bedroom, but a very livable 514-square-foot one-bedroom, with a walk-in closet and room by the entry. It just boils down to which suite you (or rather, mommy and daddy) select.

    THE BAD

    God help the working professional souls who move in here thinking they can relax in their brand new purchase. Try weekday parties, dramatic 3 a.m. breakups, and other gems courtesy of only those who have maneuvered their classes after 12 p.m. I’m not saying The College Condominiums will be a glorified dorm necessarily, but chances are there won’t be the same respect for the nine to five as you might find in a building by the Financial District or over on Queen West. The College Condominium will likely have a heavy presence of tenant-occupied suites as well, which can often take a greater toll on amenities and other common building elements. Just a couple of things to consider when deciding whether to drop off that hefty down payment.

    Speaking of, make no mistake – The College Condominium is not being offered at student-friendly prices. Depending on the suite, you’re looking at paying about $600 – $700 per square foot or more, which (despite a supposed “cooling” real estate market) is certainly no steal. But despite the full prices, the suite finishes still seem to reek slightly of “student,” with laminate flooring over hardwood and bitty 24″ appliances. And while maintenance fees for new builds usually start at $0.50 – $0.53 per square foot (which, granted, is artificially low), the fees for The College Condominium start at a curious $0.57. Plus water, hydro, and gas. These are not unreasonable expenses, mind you, but the value might be lost when the awful sounds of Ke$ha start to bleed between the walls. Crazy Kids, indeed.

    THE VERDICT

    Depends on whether these balconies are conducive to multi-storey beer funnels.

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