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Condo plan for major downtown Toronto site may include a park
Tara Perkins – The Globe and Mail
A developer that has just beat out a number of rivals to buy a much-coveted piece of land on Wellesley Street West near Yonge Street is now in talks with the city about scaling down its condominium plans to make room for a park.
As a result, Toronto Councillor Kristyn Wong-Tam is now confident her long-held desire to see this particular parcel of land become home to some sort of green space, something local residents have also pushed hard for, will be realized.
The turn of events comes after Ms. Wong-Tam fought a losing battle last year to persuade Infrastructure Ontario to let the city lease the land and build a park, potentially with an underground parking lot to raise revenues for both governments. Infrastructure Ontario was selling the two-acre-plus site in order to raise money for the province.
“We would have loved to have been able to purchase it from the province, but the province invited the city to bid on the land in competition with developers,” Ms. Wong-Tam said in an interview. “And we were not successful at being creative and creating a new working relationship with the province because they wanted maximum dollar, and there’s just no way the City of Toronto could compete with deep-pocket developers.”
After two rounds of bidding, the site went to Lanterra Developments, whose CEO Barry Fenton says the company paid $65-million, more than original estimates of what the site would go for. Mr. Fenton said that when the company acquired the nearby Sutton Place Hotel on Bay Street, which it is now turning into The Britt Condos, it paid $58-million. “But it came with a building in place and a lot of infrastructure. This site is barren,” he said in an interview. “It’s a lot of money to spend for 2-1/4 acres of land.”
He added that his understanding is that the province received numerous offers from condo developers, office developers, pension funds and other real estate players.
Now Lanterra is planning to submit an application to the city this week to obtain about 950,000 square feet, enough space for two condo towers. But Mr. Fenton and Ms. Wong-Tam are in talks about doing something different on the site.
“We are in fluid discussions with the city councillor, and the game plan is to see if we can work something out over the next few months that provides more of a park concept with one tower, and that’s something that we would look to do,” Mr. Fenton said.
Ms. Wong-Tam suggested she’s optimistic.
“The province was suggesting to developers that they can develop the site by putting in two to three condominium or office towers,” she said. “Lanterra has been put on notice, and I did tell them that I would expect to see a park as soon as possible.”
The land was once supposed to become home to a ballet and opera house, but governments withdrew the funding for that project in the recession of the early 1990s.
Ms. Wong-Tam said the neighbourhood is one of the most dense parts of the city and there are few remaining opportunities to create park space. “As we lose all the infill sites, opportunities to create new community amenities and new community spaces are lost forever,” she said.
“I believe the end result will be a win-win,” Mr. Fenton said. He expects condos won’t be completed on the site for five or six years, with marketing likely to begin more than a year from now after the zoning application is approved.
He remains a believer in the strength of Toronto’s condo market, despite falling sales across the city and the warnings of economists who suggest the market is overvalued. “I’m spending a lot of money on something when people are telling us every day it’s doom and gloom,” he said.
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Where to work when condos target industrial sites?
In tower-crazy Toronto, the pressure is fierce on planners to allow employment land to be turned over to “mixed-use” development. (Read: more condos.)
Tim Alamenciak – Toronto Star
The struggle for land in Toronto is pitting residential developers against industry in attempts to build condos on lands traditionally dedicated to jobs.
Chief planner Jennifer Keesmaat and her planning department are in the middle, fighting to keep Toronto a city that provides places for people to both live and work.
“There’s a real risk that the city faces at this moment,” Keesmaat said. “We are struggling with — and we need to struggle with — it, because … we could see a wholesale transition and loss of our employment lands.”
A rare window has opened in the form of a five-year plan review, allowing developers with sky-high dreams to push for rezoning lands currently dedicated to employment like factories and offices.
Those areas are, she said, “a really crucial asset to ensuring we have communities where people can live near where they work.”
The city has received more than 90 proposals to convert employment lands to other uses. Most are vying to have them designated as mixed-use areas, which would allow for condo development.
New requests are arriving at the planning office daily.
Documents obtained by the Star show a planning staff fighting hard against the rising tide of development, rejecting about half of the requests for changes to mixed-use developments, including large-scale areas such as the Sterling Rd. project.
Nestle recently waged a campaign against the proposed development.
More recently, the Mr. Christie’s plant at Lake Shore Blvd. and Park Lawn Rd. announced it would close, costing 550 workers their jobs. The company who owns the plant cited pressure from nearby residential developments, and has submitted an application that includes a concept for 27 condo towers.
The planning department has processed 65 applications so far and prepared a report to be considered at Thursday’s meeting of the planning and growth management committee.
“We need to wrap our hands pretty tightly around these employment lands and say, ‘Whoah, hold on a minute, this can’t just be a city where people live; people need to work here, too,’” Keesmaat said.
Employment lands and condos can co-exist, but the arrangement places stress on industrial businesses.
This stress is something Jonathan Bamberger, president of Redpath Sugar Ltd., knows well. He said the waterfront staple has spent millions of dollars handling negotiations regarding the nearby Corus Entertainment building on the east side and a spate of condos to the west.
“If we’d kept quiet, then all of these developments would have happened in the way that the developers would have chosen, and the placement of windows and balconies and everything — then we’d have faced a problem that we’d be out of compliance,” he said.
The company, with Queen Elizabeth doing the honours, officially opened the waterfront plant in 1959. It supplies sugar for many of Toronto’s industrial food operations, including Christie’s, Nestlé and Cadbury.
“We’re still navigating, but we are determined to stay. It’s not easy. As land uses change, you get pressure,” he said. “We had to work out those arrangements at great expense between every single developer on the waterfront here.”
While Redpath is determined to stay, Bamberger admits he’s concerned about what happens when people move into the waterfront condos next door, which are still under construction.
Across the city, Nestlé fired the opening salvos against a proposed development close to its Sterling Rd. factory.
The development, which was rejected by planning staff though seen as acceptable by most area residents, would include 700 residential units and enough office space to facilitate 2,500 jobs. Nestlé fears the nearby residential use would put pressure on its round-the-clock manufacturing operation, but the developer sees his company’s project as essential to the life of the area.
“What it requires is a rethinking which would rejuvenate the entire area and make it attractive to a new economy to move in there,” said Alfredo Romano, president of Castlepoint, the company who made the proposal.
Romano plans to appeal the decision to the Ontario Municipal Board, a provincial oversight body that deals mainly with land designation.
“I fear that not proceeding with this type of plan, the land will lie fallow for a long time to come, which is against everybody’s interest,” he said.
Experts and officials both agree high residential development values are driving the industrial lands towards condos and away from typical manufacturing. Industry simply can’t put up the kind of cash that deep-pocketed developers have.
“It’s quite a challenge in a booming metropolitan area with high land values. The key is, in virtually every case, residential uses can outbid industrial uses,” said Larry Bourne, a planning professor at the University of Toronto.
Bourne said there has to be an ironclad plan to maintain these lands as industrial; otherwise they’ll be kept empty in hopes of being granted residential zoning.
The Toronto Official Plan and Municipal Comprehensive Review process will take years. But the committee is capable of implementing changes along the way that could affect the shape of Toronto today, rather than years down the road.
Keesmaat said that as part of the review they’re looking towards policies that will help industry stay in Toronto.
“The problem is is that if we were to loosen our hold on our employment lands, they’ll all disappear — because that’s what the market will dictate,” she said.
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Contact the Jeffrey Team for more information – 416-388-1960
Laurin & Natalie Jeffrey are Toronto Realtors with Century 21 Regal Realty.
They did not write these articles, they just reproduce them here for people
who are interested in Toronto real estate. They do not work for any builders.
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