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Quebec realtors dispute figures showing more condos on sale in Montreal than Toronto

Alli­son Lam­pert – The Gazette

When­ever there’s a big national story on the spec­tre of a tidal wave of plung­ing resale prices, empty con­dos and fore­clo­sures turn­ing major Cana­dian hous­ing mar­kets into ghost towns, the epi­cen­tre of the impend­ing col­lapse always seems to be in either Toronto or Vancouver.

Com­ment: Which is funny, since Toronto is not col­laps­ing and Van­cou­ver has been for years.

So when recent opin­ion pieces warned of “signs of another bust in the mak­ing” – that the num­ber of homes for sale in Greater Mon­treal on the Mul­ti­ple List­ing Ser­vice now sur­passed active list­ings in Van­cou­ver and Toronto com­bined, the fig­ures were startling.

Equally sur­pris­ing were fig­ures show­ing dou­ble the num­ber of con­dos for sale on the MLS (or on the Cen­tris list­ing sys­tem in Que­bec) in Greater Mon­treal as in Greater Toronto — the largest real estate mar­ket in the coun­try, which has more con­dos under con­struc­tion than any­where else in North America.

Mon­treal is actu­ally where the great­est supply-demand imbal­ance cur­rently exists,” ana­lyst Ben Rabidoux wrote Wednes­day in The Globe and Mail.

Com­ment: Which is com­ing from some­one almost as neg­a­tive as Garth Turner!

While active list­ings in the Mon­treal condo mar­ket, direct com­par­isons between the num­ber of homes for sale in the two cities have come under fire.

Com­ment: You can­not com­pare them, two dif­fer­ent cities. And you can­not com­pare either to Vancouver.

In a response Wednes­day, the Que­bec Fed­er­a­tion of Real Estate Boards chal­lenged the argu­ment that there were more con­dos for sale in Mon­treal than in Toronto, cit­ing the dis­par­ity in hous­ing starts between the two cities.

There are now 51,000 con­dos under con­struc­tion in Greater Toronto, com­pared to 12,600 in Greater Mon­treal, the fed­er­a­tion said, cit­ing Canada Mort­gage and Hous­ing Corp. data. As of Jan­u­ary, 20,800 of those con­dos in Toronto have yet to be sold, com­pared to 5,800 units in Mon­treal, wrote Paul Car­di­nal, the federation’s direc­tor for mar­ket analy­sis cit­ing data from research firms in both cities.

Com­ment: There are actu­ally 61,000 con­dos under con­struc­tion in Toronto right now.

Right there, that’s about four times less than in Toronto,” Car­di­nal wrote.

Com­ment: And with about 3.3x as many peo­ple in Toronto, for Mon­treal to have 1/4 the con­dos makes a lot of sense. The scale is right.

It’s clear that there are far more con­dos for sale in Greater Toronto than in Greater Mon­treal. So we can­not con­firm that sup­ply is more prob­lem­atic in (Mon­treal) than in Toronto.”

What’s more, the Toronto Real Estate Board tracts data sep­a­rately for condo apart­ments and condo town­houses, while in Mon­treal, those num­bers are com­piled in one cat­e­gory for all types of con­dos. Yet most of the com­par­isons between the cities include all 12,623 con­dos for sale in Mon­treal last month, but only cite the 6,123 condo apart­ments in Toronto, which make up the major­ity of the active list­ings in that category.

In March, there were about 1,000 condo town­houses for sale in Toronto, data from TREB show.

But while the com­par­i­son may not be two to one, there is still a gap in the active list­ings between the two cities.

Either way, it’s clear that sup­ply is ris­ing in Greater Mon­treal, where the condo mar­ket now favours buy­ers for the first time in 15 years with March inven­tory up 25% to 12,623 units, com­pared to the same month in 2012.

Com­ment: Same as Toronto, sell­ers have ruled the roost for a long time.

While cer­tain Mon­treal condo projects have already sold out, some devel­op­ers are now giv­ing away cars, rais­ing bro­kers’ com­mis­sions and run­ning spe­cial pro­mo­tions to sell units. And on Sat­ur­day, the down­town Mon­treal condo tower Avenue is hold­ing a sale where buy­ers can get higher-floor apart­ments for the same price as units on lower levels.

For Mon­treal buy­ers, it doesn’t take a com­par­i­son with Toronto to know that choices abound these days in the city’s condo market.

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Lau­rin & Natalie Jef­frey are Toronto Real­tors with Cen­tury 21 Regal Realty.
They did not write these arti­cles, they just repro­duce them here for peo­ple
who are inter­ested in Toronto real estate. They do not work for any builders.

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    GTA Real­tors Release Mid-Month Resale Hous­ing Figures

    Greater Toronto Real­tors reported 1,469 sales through the Toronto MLS sys­tem dur­ing the first two weeks of Jan­u­ary 2013. This result rep­re­sented an increase of 2.4% over the 1,435 trans­ac­tions reported dur­ing the same period in 2012.

    The New Year started off on a pos­i­tive note with res­i­den­tial sales slightly above last year’s lev­els,” said Toronto Real Estate Board (TREB) Pres­i­dent Ann Han­nah. “I am cau­tiously opti­mistic about this result. It will be impor­tant to watch sales trends closely as we move through the first quar­ter to see if some of the house­holds who moved to the side­lines as a result of stricter lend­ing guide­lines are start­ing to renew their deci­sion to pur­chase a home.”

    Com­ment: It is look­ing like my hunch was right. Those that were cut off by the new mort­gage rules have spent the past 6 months sav­ing and are re-entering the mar­ket. I think there were also a bunch of peo­ple who bought into the hype and were wait­ing for prices to drop. When they didn’t, these buy­ers came back to the fold and are back in the market.

    The aver­age sell­ing price dur­ing the first 14 days of 2013 was by up by 4% on a year-over-year basis to $459,728.

    Com­ment: Another show of strength for the Toronto real estate mar­ket. A far cry from the 25% drop pre­dicted by some…

    Con­tin­u­ing the trend from 2012, the low-rise seg­ment of the mar­ket expe­ri­enced the strongest price growth as com­pe­ti­tion between buy­ers remained quite strong,” said Jason Mer­cer, TREB’s Senior Man­ager of Mar­ket Analy­sis. “The aver­age sell­ing price is expected to grow in 2013, but at a slower pace as buy­ers ben­e­fit from more choice.”

    Sum­mary of Toron­toMLS Sales and Aver­age Price Jan­u­ary 1 – 14

    City of Toronto (“416″)
    2013 Sales: 531 | Avg Price: $464,228 | New List­ings: 1,634
    2012 Sales: 531 | Avg Price: $462,693 | New List­ings: 1,571

    Rest of GTA (“905″)
    2013 Sales: 938 | Avg Price: $457,181 | New List­ings: 2,604
    2012 Sales: 904 | Avg Price: $430,308 | New List­ings: 2,361

    Entire GTA
    2013 Sales: 1,469 | Avg Price: $459,728 | New List­ings: 4,238
    2012 Sales: 1,435 | Avg Price: $442,292 | New List­ings: 3,932

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    Lau­rin & Natalie Jef­frey are Toronto Real­tors with Cen­tury 21 Regal Realty.
    They did not write these arti­cles, they just repro­duce them here for peo­ple
    who are inter­ested in Toronto real estate. They do not work for any builders.

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    Toronto Condos Softening

    GTA Real­tors Release Fourth Quar­ter Condo Mar­ket Report

    Greater Toronto Real­tors reported 3,830 con­do­minium apart­ment sales through the Toronto MLS sys­tem dur­ing the fourth quar­ter of 2012. This num­ber rep­re­sented a decline of 23% com­pared to 5,005 sales dur­ing the same time period in 2011.

    The aver­age sell­ing price for con­do­minium apart­ments in the fourth quar­ter was $332,410 – down by 1% com­pared to the fourth quar­ter of 2011.

    Toronto real estate agents had 2,772 condo sales in the 416, with an aver­age price of $352,030. These fig­ures rep­re­sent a 29% drop from the 3,580 sales in Q4 2011 and a 2.5% decrease from the aver­age sale price of $360,884.

    Com­ment: One thing miss­ing from these data is the num­ber of new list­ings in the period. If list­ings are down 30%, then it means some­thing totally dif­fer­ent than if list­ings rose 4%. We need to know if sup­ply dropped at the same time as demand or not.

    The con­do­minium mar­ket was the best sup­plied mar­ket seg­ment in 2012. Strong condo com­ple­tions in 2011 and the first few months of 2012 resulted in a sub­stan­tial num­ber of new list­ings on the Toronto MLS sys­tem last year. With more units for buy­ers to choose from, the annual rate of price growth mod­er­ated,” said Toronto Real Estate Board (TREB) Pres­i­dent Ann Hannah.

    In the con­do­minium apart­ment rental mar­ket, trans­ac­tions rose by almost 13% year-over-year in the fourth quar­ter, while the num­ber of units listed for rent increased by over 17%. Aver­age rents were up on a year-over-year basis for one-bedroom and two-bedroom apartments.

    Com­ment: Which is why the new condo mar­ket is so strong. Investors still flock to it, see­ing the strength of the rental mar­ket and the via­bil­ity of own­ing a rental condo.

    While some first-time buy­ers put their deci­sion to pur­chase on hold in the fourth quar­ter, many of these peo­ple chose to rent a con­do­minium apart­ment instead. Sim­i­lar to the own­er­ship mar­ket, strong new condo com­ple­tions prompted a con­sid­er­able increase in the num­ber of investor-held units offered for rent. How­ever, there was still enough com­pe­ti­tion between renters to prompt upward pres­sure on aver­age rents,” said Jason Mer­cer, TREB’s Senior Man­ager of Mar­ket Analysis.

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    Con­tact the Jef­frey Team for more infor­ma­tion – 416−388−1960

    Lau­rin & Natalie Jef­frey are Toronto Real­tors with Cen­tury 21 Regal Realty.
    They did not write these arti­cles, they just repro­duce them here for peo­ple
    who are inter­ested in Toronto real estate. They do not work for any builders.

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