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Canadian housing picture looking a little sunnier

Com­pos­ite house price index shows gains after six-month string of declines

Susan Pigg – Toronto Star

The Cana­dian hous­ing pic­ture looked a lit­tle sun­nier in March, despite con­cerns on the Toronto condo front, as the Teranet-National Bank com­pos­ite house price index increased 0.4% over Feb­ru­ary after six straight months of decline.

Com­ment: Which is amaz­ing, since we still have the same mort­gage rules that cause the ini­tial drop. But now, we are turn­ing it around, a lot like I said would hap­pen. I said last sum­mer, just wait and watch, peo­ple will just save up more for longer and then start buy­ing again. Which is what it appears is now happening.

Most of the country’s major urban cen­tres recorded increases in house prices in March, year over year, which pushed the com­pos­ite index up 2.6%, accord­ing to fig­ures released Wednesday.

Com­ment: Toronto has had price increases every month, even with the lower sales.

The Toronto house price index was up 4.7% over March 2012, despite a sig­nif­i­cant soft­en­ing in the condo sec­tor and the fact house prices, over­all, have declined 1.8% since their peak last Sep­tem­ber, said National Bank econ­o­mist Marc Pinsonneault.

Com­ment: Con­dos are back up, both in sales vol­ume and in price. Don’t call the condo mar­ket dead just yet! And we have not yet hit the peak of the year, for prices. You CANNOT com­pare months, they are all dif­fer­ent. April is way higher than Decem­ber, same as August is lower than Sep­tem­ber. Com­pare Sep­tem­ber 2013 to Sep­tem­ber 2012 if you want a proper com­par­i­son. But he does not, which is why he is using num­bers that he knows will give a skewed result.

There is only one area of real soft­ness and that is the condo apart­ment mar­ket,” stressed Pin­son­neault. “For con­dos, you have the worst mar­ket con­di­tions, out­side of the reces­sion, that we’ve seen since 1998.”

Com­ment: No, that is not true. And a rather dumb and out­ra­geous thing to say.

In March there were 4.3 months of condo inven­tory on the mar­ket, much of it in high­rise tow­ers that are planned or under con­struc­tion. That’s the high­est active sales-to-listings ratio — a key barom­e­ter of the health of a hous­ing mar­ket — since the unprece­dented 5.5 months worth of con­dos that were on the mar­ket dur­ing the 2008 reces­sion, said Pin­son­neault in a tele­phone interview.

Com­ment: Sure, low­est condo mar­ket since 2008, that I can accept (though it is chang­ing in April, this might be totally out of date in a cou­ple of days when we get the full data for April), but worst since 1998 is sim­ply a fabrication.

The his­toric median level is 3.1 months.

The fact that hous­ing starts have declined sig­nif­i­cantly just since the start of this year shows that devel­op­ers are delay­ing projects for fear of dump­ing yet more con­dos on an already over­loaded mar­ket, noted Pinsonneault.

Com­ment: NO. It does not. It only proves that they are delay­ing things. Unless you have asked every sin­gle one of them why they are delay­ing, you can­not make such a blan­ket state­ment. The fact that every crane you see means 80% of units sold, and build­ings com­plete with 90% sold – what is being dumped on a mar­ket? The new ones are sell­ing like hot cakes, it is just the resales that are slower. And now they are pick­ing up – mid-April saw list­ings drop, sales rise and prices increase. That is the truth of the matter.

But I still think some cor­rec­tion is in the off­ing,” albeit prob­a­bly less than the 3–5% National Bank is expect­ing for Cana­dian house prices over­all this year, he added.

Com­ment: Wrong. Same “cor­rec­tion” every­one has been pre­dict­ing (except the one ridicu­lour 25% claim) for years now. Hasn’t hap­pened. Ain’t gonna. Even with Vancouver’s long slow plum­met, it is still NOT pulling the national aver­age down.

When it comes to the single-family home mar­ket in Toronto, how­ever, demand con­tin­ued to out­strip sup­ply in March. That has buoyed house prices and seen the active sales-to-listings ratio drop to 2.2 months, below his­toric aver­ages closer to 3%, said Pinsonneault.

Com­ment: Demand out­strips sup­ply every month, that is why prices keep ris­ing. That is why there are bid­ding wars on rentals. And exactly why the entire mar­ket is healthy and will keep increasing.

Ter­anet com­piles the com­pos­ite house price index, which had fallen each of the last six months in the wake of tighter lend­ing rules and min­i­mal eco­nomic activ­ity, by look­ing at select home sales in 11 major markets.

Toronto was among nine regions that saw increases in index prices in March, year over year, rang­ing from a high of 5.9% in Que­bec City and 5.7% in Cal­gary to 2.3% in Ottawa and 1.5% in Montreal.

Van­cou­ver and Vic­to­ria were the only two cities in the sur­vey to see declines over last March. They were 1.5% and 3.5% respectively.

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Lau­rin & Natalie Jef­frey are Toronto Real­tors with Cen­tury 21 Regal Realty.
They did not write these arti­cles, they just repro­duce them here for peo­ple
who are inter­ested in Toronto real estate. They do not work for any builders.

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The buyer/seller standoff in Toronto real estate is over

Car­olyn Ire­land – The Globe and Mail

The forces guid­ing real estate are always local, but in the choppy Toronto mar­ket of 2013, the talk has turned to “hyper-local” strategies.

The var­i­ous lay­ers and pock­ets of the mar­ket are behav­ing so dif­fer­ently that buy­ers and sell­ers need to shift quickly – even as the Big Bank econ­o­mists see the over­all mar­ket waft­ing to a soft land­ing. Nation­ally, real estate prices have declined for five con­sec­u­tive months, the Teranet-National Bank house price index shows.

Van­cou­ver has had the great­est pull but Toronto is also one of the mar­kets drag­ging down the over­all index.

Com­ment: With Toronto prices ris­ing around 4% annu­ally, month over month, how can Toronto be drag­ging prices down?

But if you’re a seller in Toronto, the mar­ket looks very dif­fer­ent depend­ing on whether you’re sell­ing a gleam­ing condo suite for $899,000 or a slightly tired bun­ga­low for $549,000.

To Ricky Chadha, a real estate agent with Royal Lep­age Estate Realty, hyper-local in the condo mar­ket means he takes an inven­tory of what’s for sale down the hall – or in the build­ing next door. He doesn’t need to look far­ther. If plenty of units are up for sale in the same con­do­minium build­ing, he may advise the seller to wait a week or two to see if there’s less com­pe­ti­tion. But he doesn’t rec­om­mend that they wait any longer because try­ing to pre­dict the direc­tion of the mar­ket is too challenging.

Com­ment: Yet peo­ple who do not even work in real estate are happy to make those pre­dic­tions all the time.

I always tell peo­ple to move when it’s the right time for them to move – not to try to play the mar­ket,” Mr. Chadha said.

He says bid­ding wars are com­mon for houses in that cov­eted $500,000 to $600,000 range that attracts move-up and first-time buy­ers. Buy­ers are will­ing to com­pete for houses in that range if they are close to tran­sit, rea­son­ably move-in ready and in an appeal­ing neigh­bour­hood, Mr. Chadha said.

He con­trasts that with the spring of 2012 when buy­ers were scrap­ping even over run­down prop­er­ties near the train tracks.

Last year almost every­thing was going in mul­ti­ples because peo­ple were just so frus­trated at los­ing on so many bids.”

Unless they have a prime prop­erty, Mr. Chadha is not advis­ing sell­ers to hold off on look­ing at offers.

That’s a risky game to play these days.”

He recently sold a house in Pick­er­ing with­out an offer date because that’s an area where buy­ers have more to choose from than they do down­town. So he was pleas­antly sur­prised when two buy­ers tabled bids a cou­ple of days after the house arrived on the mar­ket with an ask­ing price of $409,900. It sold for $417,000.

We made short work of it. It was sold in two days, firm.”

Mr. Chadha said con­dos have been sell­ing more quickly recently in the seg­ment below $400,000 but have remained slug­gish at the higher end – espe­cially those con­sid­ered lux­ury units. The buy­ers are still look­ing, he said, but they often have more time to make a deci­sion because they’re less likely to have their tim­ing dic­tated by the school cal­en­dar and fac­tors like that.

I think the condo buy­ers are seek­ing out more deals.”

Com­ment: Buy­ers have been look­ing for deals since 2006 – and not find­ing them. I had a client wait, she was sure the prices would come down. Even­tu­ally, prices rose enough that she could not buy any of the con­dos we orig­i­nally looked at. There are no deals, prices are not going to drop 25%. Even if 2013 sees a net drop, it will be 5% or less. Back to where we were in 2011.

Christo­pher Bibby, an agent with Sut­ton Group-Associates Realty Inc., said he had a flurry of condo deals in Jan­u­ary after a very slow fall mar­ket. Of seven condo list­ings he sold in Jan­u­ary, five of those were holdovers from 2012, he said.

He sold, for exam­ple, a sin­gu­lar unit in the But­ton Fac­tory Lofts that had been listed since last Sep­tem­ber with an ask­ing price of $1.495-million. The prop­erty sat through the fall but in Jan­u­ary show­ings sud­denly picked up and the seller signed off on a deal at slightly less than the ask­ing price.

Com­ment: But million-and-a-half lofts do not sell fast in gen­eral, we all know that.

Through the last quar­ter of 2012, buy­ers seemed timid and sell­ers were stub­born, says Mr. Bibby.

He believes that both groups have fresh mind­sets for 2013: The stand-off has given way to a more active mar­ket where buy­ers are will­ing to step up with offers and sell­ers are will­ing to nego­ti­ate. He esti­mates that prices have come down between five and 10% from the fall but adds that they seem sta­ble at the moment.

Com­ment: As I have explained ad nau­seum, prices peak first in the spring, then again in the fall. December-January is a low point, as is August. Com­par­ing yearly high points to low points proves nothing.

The sell­ers’ expec­ta­tions are a lot more rea­son­able. Nego­ti­a­tions are tak­ing a lot longer,” he says. “But It’s healthy. It’s fine. I’m sup­port­ive of the process.”

As for where the mar­ket goes from here – espe­cially for con­dos – Mr. Bibby says it’s going to be inter­est­ing to see what hap­pens. The car­pen­ters and plumbers are fin­ish­ing up new units every day.

A lot of really good inven­tory is going to come onto the mar­ket,” said Mr. Bibby of some of the new mar­quee addresses. But he acknowl­edges that the increase in sup­ply could pro­vide buy­ers with a lot to choose from. Still, he thinks plenty of buy­ers will be attracted to the gleam­ing new kitchens and bathrooms.

At Cap­i­tal Eco­nom­ics, econ­o­mist David Madani is stand­ing by his view that real estate prices in Canada will decline by 25% over the long term.

Com­ment: If he keeps say­ing it, one day it might hap­pen. I believe he made that pre­dic­tion in 2011 first, and prices have only risen almost 10% since then. So now prices actu­ally need to fall 35% to make him right. Which is even less likely to hap­pen than it was the first time. It was a stu­pid pre­dic­tion, made only to get his name in print. Which worked. Funny thing is, no one is call­ing him on it. No one is point out that he was – and is – WRONG.

The declines so far will prob­a­bly con­tinue this year, he said, even with­out an obvi­ous trig­ger for a cor­rec­tion. He said those insist­ing a trig­ger is nec­es­sary need look no fur­ther than the Van­cou­ver mar­ket where prices have already fallen by more than 5% from a year ago even as inter­est rates have remained unusu­ally low and the job­less rate has not increased.

Com­ment: Declines? What declines? Van­cou­ver has been drop­ping for years now, shed­ding about 35% since their high point. Why look at it if you live in Toronto? Why not look at Hal­i­fax or Cal­gary where prices have risen over that same time? They have no bear­ing on the Toronto real estate mar­ket, none of them.

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Lau­rin & Natalie Jef­frey are Toronto Real­tors with Cen­tury 21 Regal Realty.
They did not write these arti­cles, they just repro­duce them here for peo­ple
who are inter­ested in Toronto real estate. They do not work for any builders.

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    Larry Mac­Don­ald – Globe and Mail

    The 12-month change in the Teranet-National Bank House Price Index has decel­er­ated in recent months to 3.4%, led by declines in Van­cou­ver (-1.4%) and Vic­to­ria (-1.7%). Some peo­ple inter­pret this weak­ness as a sign that a hous­ing crash has started – see, for exam­ple, the Cana­dian Busi­ness arti­cle “Canada’s hous­ing crash begins.” I don’t see a col­lapse in 2013 for sev­eral rea­sons. One is the highly sup­port­ive mon­e­tary environment.

    Com­ment: And how any­one can turn a 1.4% decline into a crash, I have no idea. The spin is alive and well in the media… Heck, in Toronto we have a 4% sales vol­ume decline cou­pled with a 7% price increase being touted as the begin­ning of the col­lapse. Yeah, I know, right?

    In the case of the U.S. hous­ing boom from 2003 to 2007, the over­val­u­a­tion was pricked after the Fed­eral Reserve dra­mat­i­cally tight­ened mon­e­tary pol­icy to cool off an over­heated econ­omy. This cat­a­lyst is absent in Canada as 2013 commences.

    Indeed, mon­e­tary poli­cies in Canada, the U.S., Japan, China and else­where around the world are dialed to the oppo­site extreme. They are hyper-expansionary, with inter­est rates at record lows and print­ing presses run­ning like never before.

    Com­ment: I am not sure Canada is print­ing money, but the US is mak­ing the stuff like crazy.

    This means that Canada and other coun­tries should con­tinue gen­er­at­ing growth in jobs and income. Since higher employ­ment and income typ­i­cally sup­port hous­ing mar­kets, prices are not likely to fall much in 2013. Or if they do, they shouldn’t stay down for long.

    Com­ment: And if inter­est rates do rise, it will only be a sign of a strong econ­omy, mean­ing peo­ple have good jobs and money. Which is always good.

    The crash crowd says Cana­dian houses are over­val­ued on the basis of the price-to-income ratio. So they fear the process of mean rever­sion will take prices down by 25% or more. But with so much mon­e­tary stim­u­lus in the sys­tem, the price-to-income ratio should also be nor­mal­ized by income increases.

    Com­ment: But the price-to-income model is flawed. The cur­rent aver­age Toronto hous­ing price of $497,298 costs $1,899.52 to ser­vice at today’s mort­gage rate of 2.99% with 20% down. Go back 30 years to 1982 when mort­gage rates hit 19.41% and house prices were $95,496 and you have a monthly mort­gage pay­ment of $1,212.22 – in 1982 dol­lars. Adjust for infla­tion and that mort­gage would cost $2,610.77 in 2012 dol­lars. So hous­ing is actu­ally a lot more afford­able now that it was 30 years ago. So the whole price-to-income ratio is moot. What mat­ters is mon­thy mortgage-to-income, which has fallen. But the doom­say­ers do not want you to know this! Peo­ple buy houses based on what it costs every month to pay the bill, that is where their pur­chase price comes from. Same with cars, that is why Honda adver­tises the monthly cost, not the sticker price.

    Inter­est rates may begin edg­ing up later in 2013. They shouldn’t threaten the hous­ing mar­ket because income and employ­ment will be climb­ing as well, cre­at­ing off­set­ting demand for hous­ing. Sim­i­larly, the one-off impact of a tight­en­ing in mort­gage rules dur­ing 2012 should not be cause for a seri­ous setback.

    Com­ment: The new mort­gage rules only serve to strengthen the mar­ket, weed­ing out those that were close to the edge.

    There are other rea­sons for expect­ing a crash to be a no-show in 2013. Suf­fice it to say that the mon­e­tary cycle sug­gests a soft-landing sce­nario. This is not to deny there are pock­ets of extreme over­val­u­a­tion or over­sup­ply, where the risk of sub­stan­tial cor­rec­tion remains. Cases in point could be Van­cou­ver hous­ing and Toronto con­dos.

    Com­ment: Toronto con­dos will cool off, but they will not crash. Maybe some small prices drops, but mainly a flat­ten­ing. There is no over sup­ply, not when every new project sells 80–90% of their units before a crane goes not. Not when the vacancy rate for rentals is barely above 1%. The demand is there, trust me, if any­thing the sup­ply is not enough!

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    Lau­rin & Natalie Jef­frey are Toronto Real­tors with Cen­tury 21 Regal Realty.
    They did not write these arti­cles, they just repro­duce them here for peo­ple
    who are inter­ested in Toronto real estate. They do not work for any builders.

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