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You want that dream home? Why you’ll have to join the line in this thin housing market

Car­olyn Ire­land – The Globe and Mail

Toronto real estate agent Monte Bur­ris looked out the front win­dow of a Sun­ny­side Avenue house recently and saw a small crowd lined up on the side­walk. That was 45 min­utes before he was sched­uled to receive the hordes at the first open house as the prop­erty hit the mar­ket with an ask­ing price of $1.45-million.

One week later, the sell­ers had accepted an offer of $1.65-million.

Dur­ing the inter­ven­ing days, they had also repelled a hand­ful of bully offers and turned down the seven other bid­ders on offi­cial offer night.

It was obvi­ous early on that every­one wanted the prop­erty,” says Mr. Bur­ris of Keller Williams Real Estate Inc.

The red-brick detached house has six bed­rooms and five bath­rooms. Recently ren­o­vated, it has a gas fire­place in the foyer, a large kitchen, and an expanse of glass over­look­ing the deck and backyard.

When the first bul­lies launched their open­ing salvo, Mr. Bur­ris advised his clients to wait until the sched­uled night for review­ing offers. Bul­lies often step up with an eye-popping offer, but with the pro­viso that it’s only good for a short time. They gen­er­ally refuse to par­tic­i­pate in a bid­ding war.

But list­ings for detached houses are so thin that Mr. Bur­ris knew the prospec­tive buy­ers would likely come back to the table.

I was pretty con­fi­dent they would all show up on offer night. There’s still very lit­tle inven­tory on the market.”

This one sale is emblem­atic of the fickle Toronto mar­ket right now – or as agents like Mr. Bur­ris are say­ing more and more – the two Toronto markets.

Com­ment: True enough. I have a lit­tle semi in Hill­crest that peo­ple are lin­ing up to get into. Open house is today, I am afraid of the hordes that will come…

Con­dos are a com­pletely dif­fer­ent mar­ket,” says Mr. Burris.

That seg­ment is awash in “inven­tory” as agents say. Sell­ers are forced to cut their prices or wait a long time for a sale in some cases.

Com­ment: For some, not for all. Any­thing generic is sit­ting, as there are tons of sim­i­lar units avail­able. The larger or unique ones, with a view or in a bou­tique build­ing, they are still mov­ing nicely. The prob­lem is that there are more and more bor­ing lit­tle white boxes, the condo mar­ket is awash in sameness.

Detached houses will gen­er­ally attract mul­ti­ple offers if they are ren­o­vated and located in a prime neigh­bour­hood. Condo and loft units will attract mul­ti­ple offers in many cases if they are in a bou­tique build­ing or supremely well located. They need to stand out from the competition.

The num­bers show how unpre­dictable the mar­ket is now: sales in the Greater Toronto Area remained flat with a dip of about 1% in the first half of April com­pared with the same period last year. That’s not as grim as the double-digit drops recorded in pre­vi­ous months, but it’s not the spring bounce many agents were hop­ing for.

Com­ment: Sales jumped 16% from –17% to –1% and that is not a big bounce? Sure looks like a large increase to me.

Mean­while, the aver­age price rose 4.3% in the first two weeks of April from the same period last year. List­ings rose 16% in the first half of April com­pared with the first half of April, 2012.

Com­ment: After list­ings being down, sell­ers had held back when things looked bad. Less list­ings and fewer sales, now more list­ings and higher sales. Seems sim­ple enough. And bet­ter weather helps for sure. Spring 2012 saw 25 degrees in Feb­ru­ary for Pete’s sake, which really boosted sales. This year it was cold and crappy until almost the end of April. These things make a difference.

The num­bers were buoyed by sales of single-family homes in the sub­urbs, accord­ing to the Toronto Real Estate Board.

In the City of Toronto, sales of detached houses slipped 3.4% com­pared with the first half of April last year. Condo sales in Toronto declined 4.3% year over year for the same period.

Chan­der Chad­dah of Sut­ton Group-Associates Bro­ker­age Inc. spe­cial­izes in the Ron­ces­valles area. He says sales are def­i­nitely down and the mar­ket remains spotty.

He’s advis­ing his clients who want to buy to aim for a house that does not incite a frenzy.

I had to talk clients out of an offer last week.”

The house was listed with an ask­ing price of $849,000 and Mr. Chaddah’s clients thought they might be able to stretch to an offer of $875,000 or so. Mr. Chad­dah checked out the num­ber of bids on the offer date and told his clients not to get their hopes up. “We don’t have a chance,” he advised them.

The house sold for $1.020-million.

Mr. Chad­dah says many buy­ers seem to fall into the trap of bid­ding for a house as soon as they know that other peo­ple want it.

Com­ment: I can­not say that I have ever seen that. But I have seen them try to throw in a low bid “just in case” they get it. The prob­lem is, they won’t. And if there are 20 bids, at least 10 of them are hail mary bids hop­ing beyond hope that it goes for list price or less. It won’t. What that does, though, is push up the seri­ous bids. All you have to go on in a bid­ding war is the num­ber of bids. And gen­er­ally you see the sale price around $5–10,000 per bid over ask­ing. So 10 bids could push an $849,000 house to $900,000 but 20 will eas­ily send it to $1,020,000. The peo­ple who do not want the price to go too high are the very ones push­ing it up. Had they stayed out of it, the house would have sold for $100,000 less than it did. Now, the next house on the street is listed for $899,000 with bids and sells for $1,100,000 and so on… The peo­ple who were never in the run­ning for the house have now pushed the prices even higher. Exactly what they com­plain about. I try to explain this to peo­ple but they just get mad at me. They think it is their right to make an offer… “just in case”…

There’s no ques­tion that there’s this per­verse need for affirmation.”

He says house hunters who hear that sell­ers who find out that they won’t have to join a con­test – either because the sell­ers haven’t set an offer date or because no rivals have shown up – then start to ques­tion their own judgment.

The ques­tion starts to creep in, ‘what am I missing?’”

Lots of good houses are over­looked that way, he says, and he thinks buy­ers often end up pay­ing too much as a result.

I do more talk­ing peo­ple out of houses than I ever do talk­ing peo­ple into houses,” he says.

Usu­ally buy­ers know pretty quickly if a house feels right to them. If it does, he encour­ages them to be grate­ful if other buy­ers are pass­ing it buy.

Com­ment: Exactly. Your gut tells you it is the right place. If you don’t know it the moment you walk in, then it is not for you. You should never have to con­vince your­self or jus­tify it.

If we think it’s a good house, it’s a good house and we don’t need three other peo­ple to con­firm that. Then I’ll tell them, let’s see if we can go in and knock a cou­ple of bucks off the ask­ing price.”

Mr. Chad­dah is wish­ing that many more sell­ers will decide to list soon. Often peo­ple who are think­ing of putting a “for sale” sign on the lawn will wait for spring flow­ers and bud­ding trees.

More prod­uct,” says Mr. Chad­dah. “That’s what I hope happens.”

At the same time, he tells condo sell­ers that they have to be patient.

There’s a ton of prod­uct out there.”

A really slick condo town­house, or a high-rise unit with a really good view will some­times stir up com­pet­ing bid­ders, he says.

He worked with a buyer recently who bought a nicely ren­o­vated condo on Que­bec Avenue in High Park. The ask­ing price was $489,000 and the buyer beat out the other con­tenders with an offer of $511,000.

Even when it goes over list, it’s more mea­sured,” Mr. Chad­dah says of the action.

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Lau­rin & Natalie Jef­frey are Toronto Real­tors with Cen­tury 21 Regal Realty.
They did not write these arti­cles, they just repro­duce them here for peo­ple
who are inter­ested in Toronto real estate. They do not work for any builders.

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Praise the loft

Windmill Developments plans to convert a red-brick, Neo-Gothic church at Perth Ave and Wallace Ave. into a condo that it has christened Union Lofts.

Ryan Starr – Toronto Star

Developer Alex Speigel strolls to the back of the vacant Perth Ave. church building and sits down in front of a massive old pipe organ. He pauses for a moment and then lays his hands on the keyboard, producing a few pleasant chords and a bluesy passage that resonates delightfully throughout the defunct house of worship.

His company, Ottawa-based Windmill Developments, plans to convert the red-brick, Neo-Gothic church at the northeast corner of Perth Ave and Wallace Ave. (near Dundas St. W. and Bloor St. W.) into a condo that it has christened Union Lofts. (“Praise the loft,” the project’s brochure implores. “Prepare to be converted.”)

The church, most recently occupied by a Seventh Day Adventist congregation, was designed by George Miller (of Gladstone Hotel fame) and built in 1913.

The old organ, manufactured in 1924 by Quebec’s Casavant Frères, a company that’s still around, sounds divine. But finding someone to take the impressive instrument — with 849 pipes, some which reach as high as 25 feet — off Windmill’s hands is proving to be a major challenge.

“We’re trying to find a home for it,” explains Speigel, the company’s Toronto-based managing partner, on a recent tour of the church building, which currently serves as the Union Lofts sales centre. “We’ve contacted all kinds of churches and theatres.”

So far, though, no takers.

Union Lofts - 243 Perth Ave

Union Lofts – 243 Perth Ave

Fortunately Windmill hasn’t had as tough a time generating interest in Union Lofts.

Suites range from 550-square-foot one-bedroom units to 1,200-square-foot two-bedroom-plus den lofts. Prices start at $249,900 and go to $629,900.

The project, designed by Caricari Lee Architects, will comprise two sections.

The original church building will be preserved and reconfigured to house 24 units, each of them with unique layouts owing to the shape of the existing structure. The top floors will have two-storey townhouse-like units.

“It’s like building a building within a building,” Speigel explains. “It’s pretty complex. We have to add floors and use all the existing building openings, because (the city’s heritage preservation department) is concerned with keeping the look of the building.

“So the entire shell is being restored, and we’re also building up and into the roof.”

Indeed, one of the top-floor lofts will extend up into a large church turret.

“Units in the existing building will be kind of like a Rubik’s Cube,” Speigel says. “They go up and over the other, and they interlock.

“The church units are all quirky,” he adds. “And people really like that.”

Next door, where the church parking lot currently sits, a new 15-unit building — the Vestry — will be built, with four condos per floor.

The new addition will have brick that matches the church, but it will have a distinctly modern design, Speigel stresses. “When you mimic the old, it sort of cheapens it in a way. You want to see clearly what’s old and what’s new.

“So (the new building is) clearly of our time and the church is clearly of another time. But the materials and massing are sympathetic.”

Union Lofts’ open floor plans maximize natural daylight, with a sliding door system that enables efficient use of open spaces.

Suites at Union Lofts will have a private patio, terrace, balcony or Juliette balcony, with water hose bibs on the patios and terraces.

Kitchens come with custom Scavolini cabinetry, islands and Caeserstone countertops.

Speigel, previously director of development for Context Development, has been involved with several Toronto conversion condo projects in the past, including The Loretto, Tip Top Lofts and Kensington Lofts.

“It’s never the same thing twice,” he says. “That’s the good thing and the bad thing about them. It makes it very interesting but you just never know what you’re in for.”

“A lot of developers don’t like to do conversions,” he adds. “They would rather just tear down and build new. It’s simpler and there’s less risk involved.

“But for me it’s the challenge of working with an existing building and it’s just great to save and preserve them.”

Speaking of saving, one can only pray that the great old church organ finds a new congregation.

“Whether we find a home for it in a church is to be determined,” Speigel cautions. “It’ll be expensive to take apart, and most churches have an electronic organ now; they don’t have the room or the design for this much space.

“Still,” he says after noodling on the instrument for a few moments, “it’s quite fantastic.”

HOLY GREEN

Windmill Developments, which claims to be “Canada’s greenest developer,” is targeting LEED Platinum certification for Union Lofts.

All of Windmill’s past projects have achieved LEED Platinum, the top level of the system for measuring green buildings.

Preserving and re-using the existing church building will do much to help in this effort.

“You’re not sending all this material to landfill,” says Speigel. “It’s still got all the embodied energy that was in it.”

There will be a geothermal heating/cooling system installed under Union Loft’s new Vestry building.

Each unit at Union Lofts will have double-glazed argon-filled windows with low-e coatings, and come equipped with an ERV (energy recovery ventilator) system. An ERV supplies fresh air directly to individual suites, heating and cooling it using energy drawn from the outgoing air.

Appliances at Union Lofts are all Energy Star, including a stackable washer and dryer – and the suites come with Forest Stewardship Council-certified wood flooring in the main living areas and bedrooms.

Union Lofts

Location: 243 Perth Ave.
Developer: Windmill Developments Group, windmilldevelopments.com
Architect: Caricari Lee Architects, caricarilee.com
Size: 4 storeys; 2 buildings
Units: 40 units; 550 sq. ft. to 1,200 sq. ft.
Price: $249,900 to $629,900

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Contact the Jeffrey Team for more information – 416-388-1960

Laurin & Natalie Jeffrey are Toronto Realtors with Century 21 Regal Realty.
They did not write these articles, they just reproduce them here for people
who are interested in Toronto real estate. They do not work for any builders.

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  • New in Toronto real estate: Union Lofts

    Posted by Robyn Urback – blogTO

    Union Lofts is the former Perth Avenue Methodist Church turned residential; because youngins don’t go to church anymore, and other modern tragedies. Situated at the corner of Perth and Wallace avenues and dating back to 1913, this George Miller-designed structure will maintain its exterior facade (save for a few stained glass windows) and welcome an adjacent “Vestry annex” with room for an additional 14 suites. Atheists (with a $5,000 deposit) welcome. Here’s a closer look at Union Lofts.

    SPECS

    Address: 243 Perth Avenue
    Exterior: Church & Vestry building
    Total number of units: 40 (26 in the church, 14 in the vestry)
    Types of units: One bedroom, one bedroom + den, two bedroom, two bedroom + den
    Unit sizes (in square feet): 552 – 1,202
    Ceiling heights: 9′
    Prices from: $249,900
    Parking: $25,000 (For select suites)
    Locker: $2,500
    Maintenance fees: $0.54
    Developer: Windmill Development, One Development
    Architect: Caricari Lee Architects
    Interior Design: Andrea Kantleberg
    Expected occupancy: November 2014

    THE GOOD

    I imagine downloading naughty material whilst inebriated and cursing is just that much more enjoyable from inside a church, for those who like their dwelling spaces to come with a healthy helping of irony. The condo-by-way-of-church is, apparently, the latest “it” loft du jour, with similar projects slated for Leslieville and over just east on Dufferin. And like both other projects, Union has been designed with maximum tenancy (read: monies) in mind, with adjacent “new” buildings to house additional condo units. But Union is unique in that its supplementary structure isn’t a glass-clad fright (I’m looking at you, St. Clements), and has actually been designed to complement the aesthetic of the church, rather than starkly juxtapose. Granted, the “Vestry” doesn’t exactly carry the same charm as the shell of the former Perth Avenue Methodist Church, but it doesn’t present with ostentatious modernity à la ROM Crystal (no, not over it yet) and other Toronto attempts at heritage restoration.

    Back to Union; it’s not just the outside that presents impressively well. These suites, on the whole, are smartly laid out, with kitchen islands standard in each unit and upgraded gas cook tops. Where applicable (i.e. larger, two-storey units) stairs are out of the way as to not impede the flow of floor space, and walk-in closets and semi-ensuite bathrooms have been integrated wherever appropriate. Consider the specs of one of the mid-range Union units: currently priced at about $400,000, this 741-square foot unit in the church structure is a two-storey, one-bedroom unit characterized by a lower-level terrace and upper-level balcony (totaling 212 s.f.), one upstairs bathroom, his and her closets, and defined kitchen and living spaces. Perfect for a couple, and totally reasonable at about $540 per square foot. And no, I am not on the Windmill Development payroll (but would welcome a bonus cheque).

    There are a few exceptions, of course (such as the one-bedroom with the window-less bedroom and Juliette balcony), but Union’s layouts certainly impress.

    THE BAD

    The suites are one thing, the area is another, and the two are sort of hard to reconcile. That’s not to say that there’s anything wrong with Perth and Wallace – quite the contrary, actually, what with its heavy presence of families and a school just down the street. But it leads me to wonder; who is going to buy Union’s 852 square foot one bedroom unit, with its ideal-for-entertaining 1,102 square foot terrace and direct elevator access? A King West bachelor hotshot? A Financial District power couple? Will they really abandon the wine bars of the downtown west for the Graco Quattro Tours of Perth Avenue? The incongruence is not necessarily a Union Lofts drawback overall, mind you, but it is a point to consider.

    What might be an actual drawback, however, is proximity to train tracks. Ask a longtime Junction Triangle resident and they’ll tell you the noise becomes background, but a sound-sensitive new resident might find the distraction intolerable. Especially if and when another project akin to the Diamond Grade Separation pops up. And while there are a few nearby gems to sweeten the potentially noisy deal, this area (especially Dupont to the north) is long overdue for a restaurant and bar reinvigoration. There are only so many broken bread sandwiches one can eat without feeling as though they’ve exhausted neighbourhood options. Maybe by the time November 2014 rolls around?

    THE VERDICT

    Gotta say, I like it. (And if anyone from Windmill has that cheque ready, I’ll send you my mailing address.)

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    Contact the Jeffrey Team for more information – 416-388-1960

    Laurin & Natalie Jeffrey are Toronto Realtors with Century 21 Regal Realty.
    They did not write these articles, they just reproduce them here for people
    who are interested in Toronto real estate. They do not work for any builders.

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