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Quebec realtors dispute figures showing more condos on sale in Montreal than Toronto

Alli­son Lam­pert – The Gazette

When­ever there’s a big national story on the spec­tre of a tidal wave of plung­ing resale prices, empty con­dos and fore­clo­sures turn­ing major Cana­dian hous­ing mar­kets into ghost towns, the epi­cen­tre of the impend­ing col­lapse always seems to be in either Toronto or Vancouver.

Com­ment: Which is funny, since Toronto is not col­laps­ing and Van­cou­ver has been for years.

So when recent opin­ion pieces warned of “signs of another bust in the mak­ing” – that the num­ber of homes for sale in Greater Mon­treal on the Mul­ti­ple List­ing Ser­vice now sur­passed active list­ings in Van­cou­ver and Toronto com­bined, the fig­ures were startling.

Equally sur­pris­ing were fig­ures show­ing dou­ble the num­ber of con­dos for sale on the MLS (or on the Cen­tris list­ing sys­tem in Que­bec) in Greater Mon­treal as in Greater Toronto — the largest real estate mar­ket in the coun­try, which has more con­dos under con­struc­tion than any­where else in North America.

Mon­treal is actu­ally where the great­est supply-demand imbal­ance cur­rently exists,” ana­lyst Ben Rabidoux wrote Wednes­day in The Globe and Mail.

Com­ment: Which is com­ing from some­one almost as neg­a­tive as Garth Turner!

While active list­ings in the Mon­treal condo mar­ket, direct com­par­isons between the num­ber of homes for sale in the two cities have come under fire.

Com­ment: You can­not com­pare them, two dif­fer­ent cities. And you can­not com­pare either to Vancouver.

In a response Wednes­day, the Que­bec Fed­er­a­tion of Real Estate Boards chal­lenged the argu­ment that there were more con­dos for sale in Mon­treal than in Toronto, cit­ing the dis­par­ity in hous­ing starts between the two cities.

There are now 51,000 con­dos under con­struc­tion in Greater Toronto, com­pared to 12,600 in Greater Mon­treal, the fed­er­a­tion said, cit­ing Canada Mort­gage and Hous­ing Corp. data. As of Jan­u­ary, 20,800 of those con­dos in Toronto have yet to be sold, com­pared to 5,800 units in Mon­treal, wrote Paul Car­di­nal, the federation’s direc­tor for mar­ket analy­sis cit­ing data from research firms in both cities.

Com­ment: There are actu­ally 61,000 con­dos under con­struc­tion in Toronto right now.

Right there, that’s about four times less than in Toronto,” Car­di­nal wrote.

Com­ment: And with about 3.3x as many peo­ple in Toronto, for Mon­treal to have 1/4 the con­dos makes a lot of sense. The scale is right.

It’s clear that there are far more con­dos for sale in Greater Toronto than in Greater Mon­treal. So we can­not con­firm that sup­ply is more prob­lem­atic in (Mon­treal) than in Toronto.”

What’s more, the Toronto Real Estate Board tracts data sep­a­rately for condo apart­ments and condo town­houses, while in Mon­treal, those num­bers are com­piled in one cat­e­gory for all types of con­dos. Yet most of the com­par­isons between the cities include all 12,623 con­dos for sale in Mon­treal last month, but only cite the 6,123 condo apart­ments in Toronto, which make up the major­ity of the active list­ings in that category.

In March, there were about 1,000 condo town­houses for sale in Toronto, data from TREB show.

But while the com­par­i­son may not be two to one, there is still a gap in the active list­ings between the two cities.

Either way, it’s clear that sup­ply is ris­ing in Greater Mon­treal, where the condo mar­ket now favours buy­ers for the first time in 15 years with March inven­tory up 25% to 12,623 units, com­pared to the same month in 2012.

Com­ment: Same as Toronto, sell­ers have ruled the roost for a long time.

While cer­tain Mon­treal condo projects have already sold out, some devel­op­ers are now giv­ing away cars, rais­ing bro­kers’ com­mis­sions and run­ning spe­cial pro­mo­tions to sell units. And on Sat­ur­day, the down­town Mon­treal condo tower Avenue is hold­ing a sale where buy­ers can get higher-floor apart­ments for the same price as units on lower levels.

For Mon­treal buy­ers, it doesn’t take a com­par­i­son with Toronto to know that choices abound these days in the city’s condo market.

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who are inter­ested in Toronto real estate. They do not work for any builders.

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  • Five reasons not to buy a Toronto condo

    Ben Rabidoux – The Globe and Mail

    The Toronto condo market has been the centre of much discussion recently, with even the Bank of Canada giving it significant coverage in the December 2012 edition of the Financial Stability Review.

    The potential risks facing this market segment have now crept to the forefront in discussions on the health of the overall Toronto real estate market – and for good reason. As the Bank of Canada noted, “Price corrections in particular segments of the housing market may put downward pressure on house prices more generally.” Because of this, the health of the condo market ought to be of interest to everyone in Toronto.

    And on that front, it appears that 2013 may prove to be a pivotal year for the condo market as a number of factors seem to be lining up against it.

    In particular, I see five trends worth watching in 2013:

    1) Sales of new and existing condos are weakening

    Sales of existing condo units, as measured on the Multiple Listing Service, have fallen in both the 905 and 416 regions. January sales in the 416 declined 6% from a year earlier and 9% in the 905 over that same time period.

    Comment: Uh, nope. Condos in the 416 fell 4.5% and 6.4% in the 905.

    The story is even worse in the new condo market, where sales of new units fell 53% in December compared to last year.

    Comment: So what, pick any one month and you can make a point. The fact is, 2012 had the 4th highest new condo sales ever. One month does not a trend make.

    Falling sales have been accompanied by rising inventory through the second half of 2012. Rising supply and falling demand are destabilizing factors in a real estate market.

    Comment: New condos were 79% sold in 2012, just above the 10-year average of 78%. So no, unsold inventory is NOT rising, it actually dropped a little bit.

    2) Inventory of unsold condos is now rising rapidly

    January saw a significant rise in the MLS condo inventory across the Greater Toronto Area (GTA) over the same month last year, with condos for sale rising 28% in the 416 – including a 42% jump in the downtown core – and 49% in the 905. Weakening sales and rising inventory is a clear indication that supply and demand is increasingly out of balance.

    Comment: I cannot find stats that detailed, curious where these come from. But I find it very hard to believe when overall new listings FELL 18.5% in February from Feb 2012. And new condo inventory is also down…

    3) There is an unprecedented supply of new condos in the pipeline, with a record number of units set to complete in 2013

    Given the number of cranes that fill the Toronto skyline, it will likely come as no shock to Toronto residents that the number of condo units under construction is at an all-time high at just under 55,000 units.

    Comment: Yet almost 80% of those units are already sold. Same as every year for the past 10 years. It is not like they are all going to suddenly come onto the market. And there are actually a little less than 61,000 units currently under construction.

    Of these, an estimated 25,000 to 28,000 units are set to complete in 2013, representing an enormous amount of potential new inventory. If current trends persist, these units will be completing, and a portion of them hitting the market, at a time when existing inventory is already high and sales are relatively weak.

    Comment: And we have had that many completed in a year before – nothing happened. So what? Potential is only that, potential. Sales are weak, yes, but only compared to record years. We are still way above the long term average.

    4) Population growth is slowing

    What’s ultimately needed to deal with what appears to be a potential condo oversupply problem is strong population growth in the GTA.

    While we often hear that the GTA attracts some 100,000 new individuals annually, it appears that population growth is slowing. In fact, if we look at net population change in Ontario, we find that our population as a province is growing at the slowest pace since 2007.

    Comment: Provincial data does not matter when talking about only one city. But if population growth slows in Toronto, then there will be fewer homes required. As sales slow, developers will release fewer projects. This will be slow and gradual. It is not like a wall is going up tomorrow and immigration will stop cold one day.

    In a recent report, the Canada Mortgage and Housing Corporation discussed the effect of slowing population growth on real estate in Toronto:

    “At least part of the reduction in ownership demand (in Toronto) over the second half of 2012 can be linked to weaker migratory flows into the region. Net migration for Ontario over the past year ending in September 2012 declined by more than 20% as a decreased number of people from other countries came to live in the province and an increased number of Ontarians migrated out. This suggests that the GTA (which doesn’t have updated data for 2012 but represents roughly 70% of the province’s migration flows), saw the number of net new people decline to below 60,000 for the first time since the late 1990s.”

    Population trends are notoriously difficult to predict, but the fact that Toronto’s population growth is slowing dramatically as we head into 2013 is one more reason to be concerned.

    Comment: And yet you use it to make predictions.

    5) Condo prices are now falling

    Finally, and perhaps as a logical result of the weakness in the condo market in late 2012, prices are beginning to fall. The year-over-year change in the median resale price of condos and single-family homes in the GTA, as reported by the Toronto Real Estate Board. Put simply, when the trend is below zero%, it means prices are falling compared to the previous year.

    Comment: And yet condo prices have risen every other year, always going up. One year is only one year. You are telling people to panic and sell, or not buy, because of 10% of a decade-long trend? That does not sound like practical financial advice.

    Resale prices for condos are now slightly below what they were a year ago. Barring a major change in current sales and inventory trends, it doesn’t appear that prices will rebound soon. But the recent downward motion is a major change from the past 10 years – and you want to act immediately on that, rather than wait it out to see what happens. All prices rise in time, given enough time. If you buy a condo now – to live in, as a home as opposed to an investment – you are more than likely going to see a higher price 5 years from you. Simple as that.

    For prospective first-time buyers looking at jumping into the condo market, it certainly looks like 2013 will be a great year to sit on the sidelines and watch how this plays out. For condo owners looking to sell, be aware of the current state of the market and set your price and expectations accordingly.

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    Laurin & Natalie Jeffrey are Toronto Realtors with Century 21 Regal Realty.
    They did not write these articles, they just reproduce them here for people
    who are interested in Toronto real estate. They do not work for any builders.

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  • Jim Flaherty on home sales dive

    ‘I don’t mind prices com­ing down a bit, too’

    Tara Perkins and Sean Sil­coff – The Globe and Mail

    The way Jim Fla­herty sees it, his July changes to Canada’s mort­gage rules are hav­ing the desired effect on the hous­ing market.

    Well, yeah,” the finance min­is­ter told The Globe and Mail. “I don’t mind prices com­ing down a bit, too.”

    Mr. Flaherty’s com­ments Tues­day fol­lowed new num­bers show­ing Cana­dian home sales posted their fastest year-over-year decline in Decem­ber since he tight­ened mort­gage rules in July.

    Sales of exist­ing homes over the Mul­ti­ple List­ing Ser­vice fell 17.4% in Decem­ber from a year ear­lier, and were down 0.5% from Novem­ber, accord­ing to the Cana­dian Real Estate Association.

    The MLS Home Price Index, which seeks to fac­tor out changes in the types of homes being sold to get an indi­ca­tion of under­ly­ing prices, rose 3.3% from a year ear­lier. That’s the slow­est growth since April of last year.

    Suc­ces­sive rounds of tight­en­ing mort­gage reg­u­la­tions have kept the hous­ing mar­ket in check dur­ing what has become an extended low inter­est rate envi­ron­ment,” said CREA chief econ­o­mist Gre­gory Klump.

    Hav­ing said that, the impact of the new rules are prob­a­bly fully priced into the mar­ket now, said Toronto-Dominion Bank senior econ­o­mist Sonya Gulati.

    Com­ment: And now that we see sales and prices ris­ing in Jan­u­ary, can we all just admit how strong the real estate mar­ket is? Every rule change has tight­ened things and made it harder for the mar­ginal peo­ple to get in. Yet it keeps going. We keep trim­ming the fat, and it keeps going. And as we weed out the longer amor­ti­za­tions, the higher re-finances, the hard-to-qualify – this means that those who do buy are more and more able to do so.

    Econ­o­mists at TD went through the data last year in an attempt to quan­tify just how much of an impact Mr. Flaherty’s four rounds of rule tight­en­ing were having.

    Com­ment: Easy, in Toronto it cut the bot­tom 10–20% out of the market.

    In a report in Sep­tem­ber, they con­cluded that the changes had a sig­nif­i­cant per­ma­nent drop in hous­ing demand, but “while home prices took an imme­di­ate hit fol­low­ing the rule changes, they bounced back within two or three quar­ters and con­tin­ued to grow faster than under­ly­ing eco­nomic fundamentals.”

    Com­ment: But it is a per­ma­nent drop from the record highs of 2011. Fig­ures will still be on the high side, in line the the 5-year trend before 2011. And those fig­ures are quite high from a his­tor­i­cal perspective.

    Blame inter­est rates.

    Now, “with the whop­ping 17.4% year-over-year change in sales seen in Decem­ber, we sus­pect that the impacts from the mort­gage rule tight­en­ing in July are now fully priced in,” Ms. Gulati said Tues­day. “We expect the Cana­dian hous­ing mar­ket to sta­bi­lize at cur­rent lev­els over the next few months.”

    Com­ment: More likely is that they will rebound slightly to a level some­where between the highs and lows. Expect to see sales lev­els in the range they were in 2010 or so.

    Indeed, Royal Bank of Canada econ­o­mist Robert Hogue pointed out that list­ings declined by more than sales in Decem­ber, and that should lend some sup­port to prices now. The num­ber of newly listed homes fell 1.3% from November.

    Com­ment: Of course, sell­ers see action slip­ping, so they pull out to wait and see where the mar­ket heads. Now that it is head­ing back up, there will be more list­ings – lead­ing to more sales and thus higher prices.

    The MLS Home Price Index has been declin­ing for six months on a month-over-month basis, and there have been fears that those declines will accelerate.

    Com­ment: But they never did. They stayed roughly the same month over month.

    But now if sup­ply is adjust­ing to the lower demand, this may guard against this accel­er­a­tion of the decline,” Mr. Hogue said in an interview.

    He has been of the opin­ion that the impact of Mr. Flaherty’s lat­est round of rule changes, which included cut­ting the max­i­mum length of insured mort­gages to 25 years from 30, would only be temporary.

    We’ll get the answer in the com­ing months,” he said.

    And if the sharp declines in year-over-year sales end, and sales flat­ten out or even pick up a bit, the mea­sures will have run their course, he said.

    Ms. Gulati said the sales-to-listings ratio and the num­ber of months of unsold inven­tory are well within the nor­mal range.

    How­ever, when we com­pare prices to other stan­dard met­rics like price-to-income, we still believe that prices have devi­ated from under­ly­ing eco­nomic fun­da­men­tals,” she said. “With this in mind, house prices will likely resume their trek down­wards once higher inter­est rates come into effect in the fourth quar­ter of 2013.”

    Com­ment: Yet now the BoC is say­ing rates will not rise, due to a slower than pre­dicted economy.

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    Lau­rin & Natalie Jef­frey are Toronto Real­tors with Cen­tury 21 Regal Realty.
    They did not write these arti­cles, they just repro­duce them here for peo­ple
    who are inter­ested in Toronto real estate. They do not work for any builders.

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