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Housing market headed for soft landing, agency, CEOs say
Tara Perkins & Grant Robertson – The Globe and Mail
While the drop in Canadian house sales that began in the second half of 2012 is likely to continue, the market is headed for a soft landing rather than a crash, one of the country’s largest real estate agencies and a number of bank CEOs predicted Tuesday.
Their comments came as the latest data suggest that the steep drop in year-over-year home sales persisted through to the end of the year.
Comment: Be interesting to see how they change their tune now that things have reversed and are rising again…
“The number of existing homes sold fell by an average of 18.6% year-over-year using a sample that includes Vancouver, Toronto, Ottawa, Calgary, Edmonton, Kitchener, the Fraser Valley, Victoria, Saskatoon and Regina, according to a composite number compiled by Bloomberg,” economists at Bank of Nova Scotia wrote in a research note. The data, they added, are “not pretty.”
But high-profile voices in the banking and real estate sectors suggested that the impact of the sales downturn will not be severe.
“Our expectation is we’ve got this sort of soft-landing scenario on the real estate side,” Royal Bank of Canada CEO Gord Nixon told investors at a conference in Toronto on Tuesday. “We have seen a slowdown in sales and we’ve certainly seen a slowdown in mortgage demand, but price levels are relatively stable.”
Comment: If not still rising, albeit slowly.
Speaking at the same conference, Bank of Montreal CEO Bill Downe said that a drop in house prices is to be expected. “House prices may just stagnate for a couple of years, and that’s the definition of a soft landing,” he said.
Comment: And flat prices are a far cry from the stupid 25% drop predicted by some. I wonder how mid-January’s 4% price rise figures into their calculations – if at all.
Real estate agency Royal LePage is forecasting a mild correction in the coming months. It believes that sales in the first half of the year will be slower than last year, tempering the pace at which prices have been rising. But it is predicting that by the end of 2013, the average national house price will be 1% higher.
Fewer home owners listed their properties late last year as more potential buyers moved to the sidelines, Phil Soper, CEO of Royal LePage, said in a press release. The slowdown in listings kept inventory levels lower, and supported house values, he said.
Comment: And now that people have saved up, they will re-enter the market. This will prompt more listings, which will fuel higher sales volume and that will push prices up.
The real estate agency said that it saw the price of standard two-storey houses rise 4% year-over-year in the fourth quarter, to $390,444, while the national average price of condominiums sold increased 1% to $239,374.
Royal LePage expects the year-over-year declines in sales that characterized the latter part of 2012 to continue. Sales volumes should improve a bit in the third quarter, it said, becoming essentially flat when it comes to year-over-year comparisons, and then show year-over-year growth in the final months of the year.
Comment: First half sales will be slower, since Q1 and Q2 2012 were fairly hectic. But the second half of 2013 will be higher than 2012, as that part of the year slowed significantly.
“With economic fundamentals such as employment levels improving, we expect this cyclical correction to be short-lived,” Mr. Soper said.
Sal Guatieri, senior economist at BMO Nesbitt Burns, told reporters on a conference call Tuesday that a soft landing appears to be under way in most regions of the country in the wake of a decade-long boom.
“We expect it to continue this year, with sales and housing starts moderating further and prices generally stabilizing,” he said, adding that the market will be supported by factors such as moderate job growth and steady immigration. “Most importantly, demand will be supported by continued low interest rates with the Bank of Canada likely on hold for another year,” he said.
On the downside, the market will be restrained by elevated household debt, moderately high valuations, little pent-up demand and, most importantly, tighter mortgage rules, he added.
Royal LePage is predicting the average house price in Vancouver will decline by 3% this year, while most parts of the country will see small price increases. Gains will be larger in Calgary (2.5%) and Regina (4%), it predicts. It expects average prices to rise by 1% in Toronto.
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Outlook “incredibly positive” for Canadian economy
Richard Blackwell – Globe and Mail
Royal Bank of Canada chief Gordon Nixon says he is “incredibly positive” about the outlook for the Canadian economy despite the problems bubbling up around the globe.
“The next number of years is going to be a difficult period for the world,” the chief executive officer told a Bloomberg conference in Toronto. However Canada “is incredibly well positioned” because of its fiscal flexibility, its low tax rate, natural resources, strong financial sector and growing industrial sector.
“We have ability to really buck the trend” of what is going on elsewhere, he said, particularly because the country is less reliant on the United States than it was in the past.
Mr. Nixon said he is not concerned about a housing bubble that may burst.
“We feel pretty good about the housing market,” he said, noting that Vancouver’s condo market is not representative of the entire national housing market. RBC also has relatively little exposure to the condo market, he added.
There are pockets of vulnerability, but over all, the bank is comfortable with its mortgage lending, Mr. Nixon said. The only worry would be a “shock from a significant increase in interest rates over a short period of time,” he said.
Indeed, Mr. Nixon said he would “like to see the rhetoric [about a housing bubble] come down a little bit.”
Mr. Nixon said RBC, which has been more cautious about overseas acquisitions than many of its competitors, will remain that way. It will look at “strategic, tactical” acquisitions, but only ones that can present a reasonable rate of return.
All banks are looking to more capital growth in the current uncertain environment, so the buying action that took place from 2000 to 2008 will not be repeated for some time, he said.
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Canada Housing Bubble Talk Dismissed
Andrew Mayeda and Chris Fournier – Bloomberg
The head of Canada’s biggest bank and one of the country’s leading developers said the housing market is not in a bubble, even as one economist said Toronto is caught in a “condo craze.”
Comment: Yes, condo craze. Based on nothing but restrictive Greenbelt policies, opposition to sprawl, increased interest in urban living, hatred of commuting and more. Not that the rental market is now the condo market because there are no new rental buildings. Not that houses are expensive, forcing many first time buyers into more affordable condos. No, it is just some silly “craze”…
Canadian housing starts rose to the highest since September 2007 last month, led by multiple-unit projects, Canada Mortgage & Housing Corp. said yesterday. The annual pace of home starts rose 14 percent to 244,900, Ottawa-based CMHC said.
Participants at Bloomberg’s Canada Economic Summit in Toronto said talk of a housing bubble is overblown.
Comment: Yes!
“When we look at the overall marketplace, there might be pockets of vulnerability but we remain quite comfortable,” said Gordon Nixon, chief executive officer of Royal Bank of Canada “Frankly, I’d like to see the rhetoric come down a little bit.”
Comment: I love this man. In a brotherly kind of way of course…
A residential real-estate boom in the world’s 10th-largest economy has prompted senior policy makers such as Bank of Canada Governor Mark Carney and Finance Minister Jim Flaherty to warn that Canadians may be taking on too much debt.
Comment: Sort of. They are also cautioning against borrowing to buy cars and TVs. The debt issue has more to do with consumer debt than mortgage debt.
Carney told lawmakers April 24 that high levels of household debt remain the greatest domestic risk to Canada’s economy. In an appearance before a parliamentary committee, he reiterated that a rate increase “may become appropriate,” and warned Canadian families to exercise “caution” with their debt levels.
Comment: Because mortgage debt is secured against a tangible asset. Credit card debt to buy a TV or fridge is not.
Carney has kept his key lending rate unchanged at 1% since September 2010 in the longest pause since the 1950s.
Comment: Not for long! The economy is booming, there is no reason to keep it so low any more. Watch for a 0.25% hike by this fall at the latest.
10 percent overvalued
Housing prices in Canada are probably about 10 percent overvalued, economist Paul Fenton said at the Bloomberg summit.
Comment: Based on what? I love these general comments with nothing to back them up.
There doesn’t seem to be a sense that there’s been overbuilding, and housing doesn’t pose a systemic threat to the function of the nation’s financial system, said Fenton, senior vice-president and chief economist at Caisse de Depot et Placement du Quebec.
Comment: There is no overbuilding in Toronto when we need around 50,000 new residences each year but are building less than 30,000.
The 244,900 housing starts last month released yesterday beat economists’ expectations. The highest forecast in a Bloomberg economist survey with 21 responses was a 222,600 rate.
Comment: So the “experts” were wrong about something else? Is anyone surprised by this?
“Wow. This report reflects unbelievable strength in Canadian housing starts, and all of the gain was in multiples again which reflect the ongoing condo craze,” Scotia Capital economist Derek Holt said in a research note.
Sales of new condominiums in Toronto reached 6,070 units in the first three months of the year, a record for the first quarter, market research firm Urbanation Inc. reported May 7. As many as 40 new projects with more than 11,000 units could come on the market in the second quarter, a trend that may cause inventory of unsold units to approach a record set in 2008, Urbanation said.
Comment: So the record for unsold inventory was set 4 years ago? That means it has gone down since then? Meaning there is no huge pile of unsold condos being added to every year? Why do people lead us to believe otherwise?
Risk Averse
Condo builders “tend to be risk averse,” insisting that 70% of a project is presold and buyers put down at least a 20% deposit, according to Jim Ritchie, senior vice president of sales and marketing at Tridel, a Toronto-based real estate developer.
Comment: No, the banks that lend them the money for construction, they are the ones who want the pre-sales. And it can be 80% of units and 25% down for some projects.
“It’s all about managing risk,” Ritchie said. There’s a market for condos because average house prices in Toronto’s 416 area code are about $830,000 (for the average two-storey detached – you can get semis and towns for $300–350,000 as well), compared with $400,000 for a new condo (which average $360,000), he said.
Almost 60% of people buying condos in that area are either single or couples without children, said Ritchie, who said concerns about foreign buyers are overdone, given about 95% of purchasers are “locals who have social insurance numbers and local addresses.”
Comment: And they would know, new condo buyers have to provide photo idea and SINs to for tax purposes.
RBC’s exposure to the condo markets in Toronto and Vancouver isn’t “significant,” Nixon said. “Part of the reasons for that is firstly a lot of the condo buyers in those markets are cash buyers. At the margin there’s certainly a significant foreign component to them, and I think to some degree the banks are a bit slightly more cautious,” he said.
No Bubble
The increase in housing prices in Canada is unsustainable, said Finn Poschmann, vice president of research at the Toronto– based C.D. Howe Institute. It’s difficult for market participants to tell a bubble has formed before it has deflated, he said.
Comment: And the 6–8% average annual price increase we have seen for the past 16 years is also simply not a bubble, that is the main thing.
“The big question people ask is, is Canada’s housing market in a bubble? Our answer to that is no,” said Jim Murphy, chief executive officer of the Canadian Association of Accredited Mortgage Professionals. The association’s research suggests growth in mortgage credit is below average, he said.
Canada’s housing agency said yesterday there is no compelling evidence of a price bubble based on factors such as household income and interest rates.
“Clear evidence of a bubble is lacking,” Canada Mortgage & Housing Corp. said in its annual report. “CMHC continues to monitor very closely housing prices and underlying factors such as demographic and economic fundamentals and financial conditions across all major urban centers, including condominium markets.”
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Contact the Jeffrey Team for more information – 416−388−1960
Laurin & Natalie Jeffrey are Toronto Realtors with Century 21 Regal Realty.
They did not write these articles, they just reproduce them here for people
who are interested in Toronto real estate. They do not work for any builders.
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