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Toronto condo parking spaces can fetch $60K

The resale market for parking spots and condos is steady with some ranging in price up to $60,000. Still, there are a few wrinkles in selling a spot.

Ian Harvey – Toronto Star

With parking a hot commodity for downtown residents who drive, condo owners are taking advantage of the demand and selling their parking spaces.

A spot that was purchased for $18,000 about 15 years ago, for example, was recently sold by its owner for $38,000.

Still, that was a bargain compared to prices that begin at $55,000 — and generate bidding wars — for parking spots in newly built downtown condominiums. Most buildings have fewer parking spaces than condo suites, and many have no visitor parking at all.

Yet even at $40,000 to $60,000, Toronto condo dwellers are still in a sweet spot. In cities such as London, England and New York, parking spots for multi-million-dollar condo units can run up to a cool one million dollars.

In Singapore, one luxury builder has installed a parking elevator to bring owners’ cars to their units where they are off-loaded into a special ensuite parking bay. A home with a two-bay parking garage is $7.7 million.

In Toronto, the resale market for parking spots and condos remains steady with MLS for early March showing some 23 parking spots ranging up to $60,000 and also three lockers for sale with prices from $4,000 to $6,000.

Still, there are a few wrinkles in selling a spot or a locker.

First, read your condominium declaration, says Lorne Shapiro of Basman Smith LLP , a real estate lawyer who works with developers.

“It’s the bible and it will spell out what you can and cannot do,” he said.

Comment: It all depends on whether or not the spot is owned or exclusive use. If you have a deed for the parking spot, you can sell it. If it is a common element that you have exclusive use of, too bad, it stays with the unit and cannot be sold. Same with a locker.

While some older condo corporations may not have anticipated sales of parking spots and storage lockers, most declarations allow sale only to another owner in the building, Shapiro said. And there are reasons why: mainly security.

Assuming it’s permitted, selling a parking spot or locker is the same as selling title to your condo, he said.

“The residential unit, parking spot and locker are all titled and numbered separately so there are no issues with title,” he said. “And you have to pay the maintenance fees on them.”

You also might want to read over your mortgage documents if you’re thinking about “flipping” a parking spot or locker soon after purchase, warns Robert Wong, a real estate broker with Keller Williams Realty . In fact, it’s a good idea to check with your mortgage period.

“If you’ve got a mortgage then the locker or parking spot will likely be included in the value of you condominium,” he said. “If you sell the parking spot or locker, you have changed the value of the property and there could be a problem.”

With more downtown condos going up with fewer parking spots — the 42-storey project at the old Royal Canadian Military Institute on University Ave. near Dundas St., will have none at all — the price for those suites that do have spots, and the resale market for parking spaces, are both escalating.

Politics has also raised its head in the condo parking issue.

The city of Toronto usually demands .67 to .75 parking spaces per unit for most condos and up to 1.1 in some outlying areas but will waive that ratio depending on location.

Homeowners in the Woodbine Ave. and Queen St. E. area in the Beach were recently incensed when they learned a 70-unit condo planned for the neighbourhood would have only 65 spaces — actually more than the requirement. The residents fear an overflow of cars will flood their streets and force those homeowners with street parking further from their regular spots.

Of course, getting a parking spot with a condo all depends on location, location, location. Buyers in the suburbs usually expect parking included the deal, along with a locker, because transit isn’t always close, fast or convenient depending on where they work.

Singles, young couples and empty nesters who buy within the city’s core for the lifestyle, however, aren’t usually interested in parking spots said Jim Ritchie, Tridel’s senior vice president of sales and marketing. Those residents don’t rely on cars and instead use streetcars, subways, bicycles and even shared rides such as ZipCar or AutoShare when they need wheels, he said.

“A car is more important as you move away from the core,” said Ritchie, explaining the demand curve for parking.

“Cars are expensive,” said Debbie Cosic, of In2ition Realty who specializes in marketing and selling new home developments. “Parking spots can add $50,000 to the cost of buying a condo, that’s another $240 a month in mortgage payments. Then’s there $300 a month for the car, $100 a month at least for insurance, gas. That’s nearly $1,000 a month for something you don’t need every day.”

Developers are increasingly reluctant to offer parking, she said. Because the cost of land continues to climb, they have to go higher to create enough units to pay back their investment costs.

This, in turn, means developments with small footprints must go deeper to create multi-level parking floors.

“You’d think the cost would go down as they went down but it’s the opposite, the costs increase the deeper you go to build more parking levels,” Cosic said, adding the extras can also be bargaining chips to make or break a sale.

“In the 905 and outside, if they’re having trouble selling they throw in parking spots and lockers to drive sales.”

Wong agrees.

“It does depend on where you want to buy,” he said. “Typically now, the new condos downtown are selling parking spots and lockers separately. But if you go out a bit, say Parklawn Rd. and Lake Shore Blvd., they might offer to throw one in.”

Even lockers are add-ins to a deal, Wong said, and can be sold off — more likely so because some of the lockers in new buildings are cramped and there is not always a ratio of one locker for each unit.

The mix of units in a development will also dictate parking, Cosic said, noting those buying a two-bedroom unit and planning a family will likely end up getting car. They may anticipate that when they buy, even if they don’t initially need parking. Meanwhile, buyers of small, entry-level units downtown won’t make parking a priority.

Lockers, too, are becoming premium items as condo spaces get tighter, she said. Most start at around $2,500 and go to $7,500, depending on size and location. Lockers in luxury buildings can hit $10,000.

“There are some lockers we’ve put in a project on the same floor — like a pantry — which are really cool,” Cosic said.

“They’re in the nooks and crannies left after the mechanicals, like the plumbing and electrical, are run. Others are part of the parking space which people like, as well.”

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Laurin & Natalie Jeffrey are Toronto Realtors with Century 21 Regal Realty.
They did not write these articles, they just reproduce them here for people
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When it comes to condos, size does matters

Larger units ease the tran­si­tion for move-down buyers.

Ryan Starr – Toronto Star

Many of the pur­chasers at Ian Zagdanski’s For­est Hill lux­ury condo project will be mov­ing out of stately homes in high-end neigh­bour­hoods around Toronto.

So the devel­oper of The Upper Canada — an 18-storey build­ing on Avenue Rd. south of Lons­dale Rd. — under­stands these buy­ers may feel some trep­i­da­tion at the prospect of trad­ing in their man­sions for life in a multi-family building.

Tran­si­tion­ing into a condo could come as a shock to the sys­tem for peo­ple used to liv­ing in a 3,000-square-foot house,” acknowl­edges Zag­dan­ski, vice pres­i­dent of State Build­ing Group.

But unlike at most down­town Toronto condo projects these days — typ­i­cally tall tow­ers that are filled with tiny units in an effort to keep the offer­ings afford­able —The Upper Canada’s 93 suites will be any­thing but shoe­boxes; all are two-bedroom-plus-den units rang­ing from 1,000 square feet to 3,000 square feet, plus a bal­cony or ter­race. Prices start in the $800,000s and go to over $2 million.

Our buy­ers aren’t going to move into a 500-square-foot condo — they’re just not going to go there,” Zag­dan­ski stresses. “So we’ve got suites that address the needs of peo­ple who are mov­ing from big­ger homes. And we think they’re a man­age­able size.”

While the Toronto condo mar­ket appears to be tak­ing a bit of a breather, lux­ury projects like the Upper Canada will con­tinue to sell, Zag­dan­ski insists, because they appeal to wealthy down­siz­ing pur­chasers who are look­ing to live in larger con­dos, just not in a face­less 40-storey build­ing. This upper ech­e­lon of buy­ers hasn’t been well served by most of the projects that have come to mar­ket in recent years, he says.

Com­ment: Right, a breather. That is why sales went from –17% in Q1 to –0.4% in April? A rise of more than 16% is a breather? And condo prices are up, their sales vol­ume is up. Hold on there, we are doing bet­ter than you insinuate.

Ted Bur­nett agrees. The pres­i­dent of Burnac Devel­op­ment Corp., which is devel­op­ing 277 Dav­en­port — a six-storey, 10-unit project on Dav­en­port Rd. just west of Avenue Rd. — notes that most of the lux­ury con­dos out there sim­ply don’t appeal to the sort of pur­chaser he’s been aim­ing to lure: wealth­ier move-down buy­ers from For­est Hill or Rosedale.

Those peo­ple don’t want to live in some tall tower where you don’t get to know your neigh­bours, where you just go up and down in an ele­va­tor with strangers all day long and don’t have any per­sonal inter­ac­tion,” he says.

At 277 Dav­en­port, suites range from 1,819 square feet with two bed­rooms and two and a half bath­rooms, to 3,767-square-foot suites with three bed­rooms and three and a half bathrooms.

Prices start at $1.65 mil­lion for lower-floor suites and go to $3.3 mil­lion for those on the top lev­els. Unit lay­outs and fin­ishes can be cus­tomized to suit the tastes of the buyer.

Three of the units have sold so far, all of them to empty nesters mov­ing from larger homes. “For peo­ple who are com­ing out of a house that’s 6,000 square feet, these still offer sub­stan­tial space and room for stor­age and pri­vacy,” Bur­nett says. “It’s not like we’re build­ing 50 floors of pillboxes.”

(The pent­house unit at 277 Dav­en­port — which takes up the entire top floor of the build­ing, with a direct ele­va­tor, large patio and ter­race and pri­vate swim­ming pool — sold ear­lier this year to a local buyer for $5.3 million.)

Bur­nett says 277 Dav­en­port is mod­eled after the smaller high-end res­i­dences found along Park Avenue in New York. “When there are only 10 fam­i­lies in the build­ing, you’re always see­ing them and inter­act­ing with them,” Bur­nett says. “For peo­ple who are mov­ing from houses, it’s a much more inti­mate style of living.”

Down­siz­ers who can’t afford to pur­chase at one of these super luxe projects, but nonethe­less want a fair-sized condo to tran­si­tion into, may want to con­sider head­ing north.

At Dream Tower, the 25-storey third phase of Emer­ald City at Don Mills Rd. and Shep­pard Ave., many of the 316 suites on offer are two-bedroom-plus-den units as large as 1,265 square feet.

You don’t hear much about (suites that size) down­town, unless they’re in a lux­ury build­ing,” says Baker Real Estate pres­i­dent Bar­bara Lawlor, who is han­dling sales for the project. “This build­ing is mid-level and yet you can have those kinds of choices and they’re afford­ably priced.”

A 1,000-square-foot suite at Dream Tower sells for $499,900, she points out, mak­ing it an attrac­tive choice for move-down buy­ers who live in the area. “Even if you’re com­ing from a more middle-of-the-road home, you can still get a good-sized suite with the square footage all on one level, which is more effi­cient than in a house.”

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Lau­rin & Natalie Jef­frey are Toronto Real­tors with Cen­tury 21 Regal Realty.
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who are inter­ested in Toronto real estate. They do not work for any builders.

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  • April Real Estate Market Stronger Than Ever

    Toronto real estate agents reported 4,260 sales through the Toronto MLS system during the first 14 days of April, representing a slight dip of less than 1% compared to the same period in 2012. The reported sales figure did benefit from one extra working day compared to last year, because Good Friday in 2012 fell in April.

    Comment: Give the extra day thing a rest, please… pretty please? If we start trying to dice up the months this finely, it just gets silly. Can we not agree to go back to the way we were, when April was just April?

    “April sales to date, which were driven by strong growth in single-detached home sales in the regions surrounding Toronto, represent a positive start to the spring market. Because market conditions have remained tight, we continue to see average price growth well above the rate of inflation for many home types,” said Toronto Real Estate Board President Ann Hannah.

    Comment: Sales of detached homes in the 905 were up almost 7% – fueled likely because they are almost half the price of a detached house in the 416.

    The average selling price for April mid-month sales was $527,397 – up 4.3% compared to $505,617 in 2012. Rates of average price growth were similar for the City of Toronto and the surrounding regions under the TREB market area.

    Comment: Pretty much all housing types in all areas rose – with the exception of Toronto townhouses and 905 condos.

    “The annual rate of price growth so far in April is actually above TREB’s forecast of 3.5% for 2013. Strong growth in the average condo apartment price in the City of Toronto was a key driver in this regard,” said Jason Mercer, the Toronto Real Estate Board’s Senior Manager of Market Analysis.

    Comment: Condos in the 416 were up 5.9%, strong growth for sure. In fact, the fastest price growth of any sector. Semis in the 905 rose 5.4% and 416 detached homes rose 5.0% flat. Who was saying the Toronto condo market is dropping? And who was saying the Toronto real estate market as a whole was falling? To be only 0.4% off of last April, WITH the new mortgage rules now and not then, that really means something. Couple that with average price growth over 4% (and condos rising 6%) and we certainly have signs of a very very strong and very very health real estate market.

    Summary of TorontoMLS Sales and Average Price April 1 – 14

    City of Toronto (“416″)
    2013 Sales: 1,565 | Avg Price: $578,327 | New Listings: 3,405
    2012 Sales: 1,638 | Avg Price: $553,032 | New Listings: 2,809

    Rest of GTA (“905″)
    2013 Sales: 2,695 | Avg Price: $497,821 | New Listings: 5,365
    2012 Sales: 2,655 | Avg Price: $476,364 | New Listings: 4,771

    GTA
    2013 Sales: 4,260 | Avg Price: $527,397 | New Listings: 8,770
    2012 Sales: 4,293 | Avg Price: $505,617 | New Listings: 7,580

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    who are interested in Toronto real estate. They do not work for any builders.

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